So, I just had the worst day of my life.
At around 1:30 PM today, at Valley Golf and Country Club, Antipolo City, Mayor Nasser Pangandaman, Jr., Mayor of Masiu City, Lanao del Sur, his father, Secretary Nasser Pangandaman of the Department of Agrarian Reform, and company, beat my defenseless 56-year-old dad and my 14-year-old brother to a pulp because of some stupid misunderstanding on the golf course.
This is a golf course. I have been a golfer all my life, and I have never seen anything like this. NOTHING. This is hard to comprehend. And it happened to my own father and my own brother too. Right in front of my eyes.
My brother and I were playing golf at the South Course of Valley. We were on the 3rd hole, and we see two golf carts going past us, overtaking our flight, and setting up to tee off on the next hole. My dad goes up to them and asks them why they would do that, why they would overtake us without even asking for our permission. Golf etiquette 101. One of the guys says that they're with the flight in front of us. (So what? That doesn't give them the right to just pass us WITHOUT asking.) So, we go to the 5th hole. The flight behind us catches up with us, and asks us what caused the hold up. We said that this flight just slipped in front of our flight. So we complained to the marshall. We play the 5th hole and walk towards the next hole, where there is a teehouse, and both the flights in front of us were there, talking with the marshall. The mayor of Masiu City, Lanao del Sur talks with my dad. Things get heated up. Voices were raised. But never, in my wildest dreams, did I ever imagine that someone would pull out a punch. Apparently not. He attacks my father. His flightmates, maybe 2 or 3 of them, rush to his aid and beat up my father. My 56-year-old father. My younger brother and I could not just watch. We rushed to break the fight. My younger brother pleads to the mayor to please stop it. To not hurt my dad. To just stop. His words still ring through my head..."Sorry na po, sorry na po...tama na...tama na po..." With his hands in front of his chest in a praying position. PLEADING. The mayor socks him in the face. My brother defended himself. My dad is still on the ground getting clobbered. My brother is the same way. I try to stop the fight, but all I can do is stop one person. There were 4 or 5 of them attacking now.
Someone breaks up the fight. I thought it was all over. The mayor shouts to his caddy: "Hindi nila kami kilala! Sabihin mo nga sa kanila kung sino ako!" And believe me, I had no idea who this person was. But now I know. He's the person who, with 4 other men, beat up my 56-year-old father and my 14-year-old brother. He's the person who sacks a pleading 14-year-old kid in the face. He's a person who, I am sure, is gonna rot in hell.
I lash out, but my dad held me back. I was screaming my lungs out, shouting to this mayor, telling him about what he had done. I said: "Nakakahiya kayo. Singkwenta'y sais anyos ang tatay ko. And kapatid ko kakatorse anyos. Anong ilalaban nila sayo?"
The mayor looks at my brother, point to his face, and says, "Tatandaan kita!" And he tells me that my brother has a bad attitude and that I need to watch him. WHAT THE HELL?! So, my brother's bad for defending his father?!
We leave. We walk to the clubhouse to file a complaint. My brother asks for a doctor. My dad could barely walk. Their group comes to the clubhouse, sees my brother. Once again my brother pleads, says sorry, and is crying. He was CRYING, for crissakes. But no. The relentless mayor still punches him in the face, and then sees my dad and goes after my dad again. Him and his friend pull my dad to the ground, pulls at his feet, and steps on him like he's dirt. I run to him and try to hold him back, holding him back by his shirt, while this other guy and this girl tries to stop me. She tells me to just stop it. I scream in her face "they're beating my father up and you want me to stop?!" I pull at his shirt--I don't let go. All I can see was my dad being trampled on. I didn't even see my brother getting beat up.
People pull them away. I get my dad, and I saw my brother. His right ear was bleeding. I freaked out. I told the receptionists to bring my brother to the clinic. I pull my dad away. People were separating us.
My mom and my older brother come. I tell her Bino's right ear is bleeding. They both look like they could kill. My dad holds my brother off, I hold off my mom. When I finally got my mom under control, my older brother gets away and I hold him off. Two of the mayor's bodyguards pull out guns. I embraced my brother from the back, just holding him back, crying. The receptionists came to us, crying, hugging me, my dad, and my mom, whispering to us to just leave. "Maam, umalis na po kayo, may mga baril sila...Maam...umalis na po kayo please..."
I am pretty sure the Secretary of DAR did not take part in the fight, but he just watched all this happen. He watched two of his sons, as we figured out, the other guy was his son, too, beat up my father and my 14-year-old brother. He didn't do anything to stop it. And this person is what now? A cabinet member. A politician.
Sounds like something out of a movie, doesn't it? But this is what happened. TODAY. The day after Christmas. To my family. And all I ask for is JUSTICE. The people at Valley Golf did not seem to want to help us. None of the security guards even tried to stop the fight. Right in the clubhouse. I came back after the fight was over and talked to the receptionists. They say they did not see anything. The general manager of Valley Golf would not give us the names of the men who made my brother's ear bleed. It took him an hour. Maybe even more than that. He seemed to not want to help us. Because, we were against the SECRETARY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRARIAN REFORM and the MAYOR OF MASIU CITY, LANAO DEL SUR. They were all scared.
The world has gone crazy. Two politicians beat up a defenseless 56-year-old father and his 14-year-old son. At a golf course. I swear to God, I thought golfers were decent people. You would think politicians were decent people. I guess not. I guess they gang up on 56-year-old men and beat up pleading 14-year-old kids.
Please pray for my dad, my brother and for my whole family. Please pray that we get JUSTICE. Oh God, please, give these people what they deserve.
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Power tends to corrupt.. Absolute power corrupts absolutely...
Those who got a abuse power and influence,are a menace to a decent society. Evidence : turning a gentleman's golf game, to a game of golpe!
I saw the footmarks on the victims (dela Paz). Decent people don't fight or WORSE step on other human beings. (literally and figuratively.) Even dogs don't do that. These Pangandamans, their kind and their minions are worst than dogs! They have positions of Cabinet Official and Mayor, yet they behave like hoodlums and thugs. Shame on you!
2010 is coming and I think KARMA will haunt this mayor. He will get a dose of his own medicine “a bad beating when he runs again”. Let’s see after if he is still the same abusive fucker he is.
I wouldn't have known much about the whole story if I haven't read about your blog courtesy of the latest article from Singapore's Straits Times.
http://blogs.straitstimes.com/2009/1/6/filipino-bloggers-afire-re-abuse-of-power
My support is with you and your family. Your blog will be linked to all my blogs also. Keep up the fight.
I think these kind of abuse of power happens frequently if not everyday in the Philippines. We just don't hear about it until now. Thanks to Bambi for having the courage to write about it and letting the world know.
Politicians are supposed to serve and protect their constituents and NOT beat the hell out of a 56 yrs. old defenseless man and his 14 yrs. old son. I think that Mayor is an ignorant man and power has gotten into his head. Something has got to to be done by higher Filipino authorities to punish this Mayor by taking him out off his mayoral seat, send him to prison and let him pay a big amount of monetary compensation for the physical and mental damages done to your dad and your family.
I hope and pray for your family's safety and I hope and pray that justice will be served.
Take care,
tom e.
What those bullies did to your dad and brother was distasteful!
Good luck to you and your family. Rest assured a lot of people out there are supporting you.
Hazel
http://psychogoddess.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/bullies-in-the-golf-course/
keep it up girl! Go for what you think is the right thing to do!
It is funny about the video of Sr's response asking for bloggers to stop mentioniong anything about the issue. How else then the PEOPLE win a battle against POLITICIANS who have an upper hand, who uses their CONNECTIONS, POWER and GUNS?
Hope your family is safe ... by this time the Pangandaman figuring out some scare tactics.
Time for PEOPLE to STAND UP and DEFEND ourselves from oppression and those who abuse the POWER that was given to them by the PEOPLE.
Hi Grace!
You may see it as a people's reaction to so many years of being oppressed, bullied and hoodwinked.
The natural response is to fight back in whatever way possible....text, blog, graffiti, etc.
What your seeing isnt organized spin, it comes from the heart.
Dear Bambee,
We regret that you and your family also have to directly suffer the same violence that warlordism has long continued to inflict upon many of us here in Mindanao.
Our sympathies are with you, as we all continue the fight to get the justice that we all deserved.
Outrageous power-tripping. I hope these guys get what they deserve.
We should have shot a few people after EDSA. It would have made a difference today. Justice must prevail if we are to go anywhere as a nation. No more cheap forgiveness or idiotic reconciliation.
It does not take rocket science to see that there was abuse of power that transpired. The aim of the guilty and their paid hacks is to cast doubt on the hurt party so that no one's word can be trusted and so it is easy to wash it away.
If this happened in another country, this would have been dealt with dispatch and justice would be grinding quickly. No intervention from anyone. If it involved a public official, he would have been relieved immediately even if just temporarily. Any regular policeman would not have hesitated to summon all parties and come up with a thorough investigation.
The powerful are entrenched and can have their way unfortunately. Everybody else can go hang!
Boyd,
You seem to know about a lot about the incident since you are preaching about non factual conclusions of posters here including myself.
So now humor me/us. What kind of facts you claim you know which we apparently don't.
For me however, its plain and simple. There is no justification for a group of "GROWN MEN" to beat up 1 boy (14 year old). This is regardless of whether it was instigated by him or his father. The Pangandemonyo's are public officials, the son is an elected offical. They should have exhibited restraint and honor in spite of "so called agitations", but no they did not.
Now tell me/us, what is not factual about that?
Pangandaman sued the De La Paz for libel? Factual? The world indeed has gone crazy.
Boyd...Naseer Jr. ikaw ba yan? LOL
You are absolutely right.. The world has indeed gone mad and its the Filipino's fault-
The Filipino because:
We allowed poverty to fester in our land and just concertrated on OURselves, OUR family, OUR communities..
Due to poverty-voters who are poor now outnumber discerning, thinking voters 8 to 1..
During elections, warlords, drug lords, feudal lords (like the Pangandamans)and buy these votes while the incompetent showbiz personalities sell their fantasy to these poor ignirant voters..
Yes its our fault.. for letting the tyrants off the hook so they can go back and repurchase their positions and abuse it.. As long as we turn our backs on the ignirant and poor this wont end and the Arroyos, Bolantes and Pangandamans will continue to rule the country
Yes the world has gone crazy and its all our fault.. The elite Filipinos who allowed these tyrants to rule because of our own parochial interests- we ignired the growing poverty and are indifferent or at worse migrated. The poor and the ignorant voters now outnumber the middle class 8 to 1.. That is why the showbix personalities, the drug lords, the jueteng lords and the feudal lords like the Pangandamans get to buy their positions and keep it by force... For as long as we allow this situation to continue.. It is time for whatever is left of the country's thinking people to unite against the tyrant who abuse their power on the backs of the poor and ignorant.. The time for cleansing is at hand....
please be careful yourself. seek the help of the right authorities. They are right about the tulfo brothers or expose.
Hope everything is okey with your family right now.
Jim Is right qoute"We should have shot a few people after EDSA. It would have made a difference today. Justice must prevail if we are to go anywhere as a nation. No more cheap forgiveness or idiotic reconciliation." unquote
That is the time of national cleansing and we let it passed , those people we abhor coz of their wrong doings are still here ruling our country with influential family members and friends doing their old tricks....that's why we are still the same Filipinos trampled and abused by the few elite, abusive powerful people who to our dismay and horror are running our government...so don,t be surprised these incidents are happening .
got the info on my boss email, and I am re posting also in my blog. I'll pray you get justice soon.
And I pray na di na ulit am elect ang mga taong katulad nila.
I am sorry this should happen to your family. It's sickening how these heartless politicians can perpetuate violence and remain in power.
Let's spread the word so that every Filipino can discern what kind of people they put in power and ensure that they do not stay in power again.
Justice for the Dela Paz family!
Sabi nung pangit at mukhang baboy na attorney ng Mayor na yan na libelous daw itong blog na ito.
Mga pilipino nga nmn gagawin ang lahat pra lang mkalabas sa gulong kinasasangkutan . . . Hay Kung ako sa iyo sumuko na kayo kasi sa totoo lang kitang-kita na ang baho niyo 'kay? Di ko lang tlga alam kung ganayan kayo pinalaki ng mga magulang niyo Mayor ka pa man din.
Ang tawag sa mayor na yan, sa mga lecheng alipores niya at sa nagmamarunong niyang attorney, MGA PAGKAKAMALI NG DIYOS!
karma nalang sa mga sinungaling at mayayabang!!!
Just read from inquirer that both parties are willing to settle the case. But since no one made the first move no settlement has been made.
Quoted from Inquirer, Atty Fortun counsel for dela paz stated that Pangandamans appeared to have “too much pride” in refusing to approach the De la Pazes, whom he described as a “low income family.” Atty. Pastrana, lawyer of pangandamans, said that it is far fetched if his client will make the first move.
My token of idea is that this case would be settled. It is just a matter of time. I hope that I'm wrong because I want to see justice takes its course so that the parties can prove their allegations of injustices they are throwing against each other. And so that the bloggers (so far posted more than a thousand comments) can see that the wheels of justice is rolling. Not just
http://www.inquirer.net/specialfeatures/thevalleygolfbrawl/view.php?db=1&article=20090107-181849
Sabi ng attorney nila Libel daw ang Blogging...sus eh panggising ito sa mga tutulog tulog na mga government officials na dapat na tumutulong sa mga naaping kabayan natin. Dito lang naman natin makukuha yung atensyon nila at matutulungan yung mga naiitsa pwera sa hustisya. Keep on Blogging People!
My prayers are with u.. i wish u peace and serenity..and most of all.. JUSTICE! Those filthy politicians can't just treat people like that! They should get what they deserve! :-(
“Because power corrupts, society's demands for moral authority and character increase as the importance of the position increases.”
John Adams
...then this happens.
I guess we Filipinoes generally are fed up with the helplessness we suffer from all these corrupt official albeit the highest position not spared. We are being used as dispensable pawns to satisfy their greed, their own gratifications.
As an OFW, we're given a pat in the back - we save the economy, we help boost spending, yeah yeah yet when dollar floods in (the peso strengthens and the economist in the Palace is happy of her achievement) and whose fault is it? Of course, it's ours. We moan about everything but all we can do is moan. Remember we are not just pawns,we must realize that pawns also also wield the power to unseat those "kings" so inebriated with so much power that they would do anything for the only fear they have is losing it.
What has this to do with golf? Nothing.
And these so called "politicians" does not even fare to be in golf courses, remember how small their salaries are compared to most of us OFW's. If ever they should be there, they would fit well as sand traps, hazards to society -literally.
“Because power corrupts, society's demands for moral authority and character increase as the importance of the position increases.”
John Adams
...then this happens.
I guess we Filipinoes generally are fed up with the helplessness we suffer from all these corrupt official albeit the highest position not spared. We are being used as dispensable pawns to satisfy their greed, their own gratifications.
As an OFW, we're given a pat in the back - we save the economy, we help boost spending, yeah yeah yet when dollar floods in (the peso strengthens and the economist in the Palace is happy of her achievement) and whose fault is it? Of course, it's ours. We moan about everything but all we can do is moan. Remember we are not just pawns,we must realize that pawns also also wield the power to unseat those "kings" so inebriated with so much power that they would do anything for the only fear they have is losing it.
What has this to do with golf? Nothing.
And these so called "politicians" does not even fare to be in golf courses, remember how small their salaries are compared to most of us OFW's hehe. If ever they should be there, they would fit well as sand traps, hazards to society -literally.
"...We play the 5th hole and walk towards the next hole, where there is a teehouse, and both the flights in front of us were there, talking with the marshall. The mayor of Masiu City, Lanao del Sur talks with my dad. Things get heated up. Voices were raised. But never, in my wildest dreams, did I ever imagine that someone would pull out a punch."
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Seriously, that is it?
Nothing in between those moments? Are we supposed to be objective on this statements right away, because thats a lot of room to be misleading through a blog.
Now, Im betting the truth will come out soon and I cannot wait to see who fouled.
Remember, Anything can said can and will be used against the person in a court of law.
Thanks for the blogging its making everything easy.
My heart is with you Bambi.and your family as well..These pangandamans terroristic attitudes have no place here in a civilized society...they should be confined in their own hometown where they rule with barbarism and tyranny. Get out of the civilized world and go back to your barbaric world...
this is absolutely insane. reposting this on my blogs et al
Don't worry Bambee, there are a lot of Filipinos out there who are outraged by this incident. WWW.PHILNEWS.COM current editorial is on this very issue.
Bambee, have you read this?
http://blogs.gmanews.tv/carlos-conde/archives/30-A-challenge-to-Bambee-de-la-Paz-and-other-bloggers.html
You should consider the points Carlos Conde makes. Seriously.
The PANGANDUMMIES have the nerve to claim themselves as the aggrieved party? Hmmm? Am I missing something here or is it the same BS the we all have to face from our "leaders"?
The Philippines is the most Eco-friendly nation on earth with its passion for recycling unequaled anywhere. It recycles garbage like there's no tomorrow, garbage such as the PANGANDUMMIES!
you are a brave girl for putting this on your blog. i commend you. you have people on your side, including me. you will be in my prayers so that you and your family may be SAFE.
you are a brave girl for putting this on your blog. i commend you. you have people on your side, including me. you will be in my prayers so that you and your family may be SAFE.
Watched your interview with Pinky Webb at their morning show.
My sympathy goes to your family for that very unfortunate event.
I do pray for justice for what happened to your Dad and your brother and strength for your family.
In any situation, beating up a 56 yrs old and a 14 yrs old who don't fight back and pleading for mercy is an act an uncivilized person(s) (taong bundok)or an animal can perform (tunay na hayop). Mga tunay na duwag. I'd like to see the Pangandaman's come to the U.S.A and do the same. Hope they reap what they sow.
Hows your dad and your brother doing so far?
I hope they are doing fine, a friend directed me to your blog, i dont know how i can help you, since i dont know anybody in power or some sorts, but i'll blast your blog to all my friends and officemates, people will know about this :)
take care
Just wanted to drop a note of congratulations for getting Raymond Fortun as your lawyer. Hope you and your family are doing better. Keep a cool head, and know that most of us (who exercise common sense) are behind you in this ordeal.
We will always include you and your family in our prayers...stay firm and always be guided by our God's love...our God is a God who is FAIR and JUST...people may be unfair and unjust but still God's loving hands will be there to hug and comfort you especially in times like these where people we thought we could TRUST to take care of our government were the ones who inflict injury and harm to us.
Hi, Ganun talaga para silang maamong tupa before the election, halos mag mkaawa para lang iboto ng tao
pero pag sila na ang nasa position kalimutan mo nalang lahat ng mga pinagsasabi nila. sila dapat itong
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My prayers goes to you and your family.
Watched the news and learned of your ordeal with these government "gangsters". That's what they are! Thinking that they are untouchables!
What is it with these children of government officials? Just because their parent is in politics or something and they think they can get away with anything?
Sira din ulo nung agrarian secretary na yan at pinabayaan nya gumawa ng masama yung mga anak nya. It just goes to show what kind of person he is. SIRA!
Sa tuktok kasi ng gobyerno merong garapal na magnanakaw na lahat gagawin para manatili dun kasi gusto pang magnakaw sa bayan. No wonder yung mga under sa kanya magnanakaw din.
Karma na lang ang titira sa mga yan.
I know it would be better to just wish those damned politicians dead...but that would be too easy.
Ingat lang kayo palagi. Hope your brother and dad is doing better.
Good luck with the case!
Its really a sad commentary about our society that we allow politicos to run roughshod over us in more ways than one.
I am praying for your family.
I know and I completely believe that God is looking at your safety.
I worked in congress, sorrounded by sharks. Akala mo mga santo at kasangga ng bayan pero ang totoo...wag na lang. Diyos na ang huhusga sa iilan sa kanila.
Biktima ako ng pambubugbog ng isang kongresista kaya nilayasan ko siya! Dahan dahan na siya ngayong sinisingil ng karma.
Huwag kayo mag alala kasama na yan sa hitlist ng NPA. Magbabayad din yang mga Demonyong yan!!!!!
I am not taking any sides here. I thought you might find this so-called investigation interesting.
This came from an article allegedly by Billy Esposo.
This is not the Valley Golf's official report but claims to be first hand sourced from the club's Head of the Fact Finding Committee. Offhand, it sounds like very pro Pangandaman. However, good friends have told me that in Valley Golf, the caddies avoid servicing Delfin de la Paz because they find him abusive and arrogant.
From Pinoygolfer.com
I just spent some time with the head of the fact-finding committee. He has submitted all pertinent facts to the board and leaves it to them to make the necessary decision based on all the facts. I will outline the facts to you as it was outlined to me. Rest assured that the facts were obtained from all parties involved and all witnesses at each incident site. The statements were obtained both by the valley fact-finding group and by the NBI as well. Testimonies were recorded, verified, and re-verified. Fortunately for the parties involved, there were always witnesses to give supporting statements on the events as they occurred.
I will compose the outline shortly as it will be lengthy but just to whet your appetite or get you thinking, you will be quite surprised with the findings. Let's put it this way, the people we thought of as villains weren't quite what they were depicted to be. and the supposed protagonists may have yet been quite as factual in their testimony as it turns out to be. Even our 14-year old isn't as innocent and "prayerful" when all the details come out. just give me a few minutes....
In the interest of making sure that no facts might be left undisclosed, I will take it upon myself to start from the very beginning. Firstly let us start by saying that on or at about 12:40 p.m., the party of the Pangandaman's registered at the starter's area. They registered for 2 flights comprised of 4 individuals per flight. Unfortunately, they still had 2 members of their group that had not yet arrived, so they initially tee'd off as 2 successive threesomes. The starter and marshall were informed that the 2 individuals that had not yet arrived would just catch up with them in the fairway. On or at about 1:05 p.m. the Dela Paz group registered initially as a twosome but since this isn't normally allowed, they registered as a 3-some even if the elder Mr. Dela Paz was not really going to play.
When the Dela Paz 3-some was playing on hole number 3, they were passed by 2 golf carts containing Mayor Pangandaman and his companion (in one cart) and the caddies being brought by one of the starter personnell. The Pangandaman's did not ask permission to drive through because they did not want to disturb the Dela Paz's who were in the middle of the fairway. Upon reaching the green of the 3rd hole, Mr. Dela Paz asked the caddie why the people in the cart just went through. Mayor Pangandaman who was already positioned at the 4th hole, personally informed Mr. Dela Paz that they were part of 2 foursomes. At this point, Mr. Dela Paz said "ah okay, courtesy lang naman". This was verified by the caddies. Mr. Pangandaman said that he did not disturb them anymore because the player was about to hit. At this point, Mayor Pangandaman thought everything was okay so he proceeded to the 4th hole (Par 3) where his other flightmates were. In the records it says that Mr. Pangandaman was not yet even done pitching into the green when a ball landed near his 8-year old child so they immediately made sure the child was secured in the cart. ( For those unaware of the common practice at Valley Golf, on every par 3, the group behind you is signaled to hit into the green once everyone from your group is already on the green) Until you have been cleared to hit by the group ahead, you should not hit into the green. It is common sense and basic precautionary procedure.
In this particular case, we have no corroborative testimony. One set of caddies say they were given clearance, while the other say that no clearance was given as of yet when the ball/s had landed.
The Pangandaman's claim that the same situation happened in the 5th hole (Par5). Even the caddied confirmed this. At this time, Bambee Dela Paz had called the Marshall to tell him that the flight behind them was complaining about why their pace was slow and that the cause of the delay was the 5-some in front of them. Shortly thereafter, a marshall on his motorcycle appeared and approached the Pangandaman's and asked if they were playing as a fivesome to which the Mayor said no. "We are 2 foursomes". Nonetheless, the Pangandaman's had already agreed among themselves that they would rather the Dela Paz's play through. The Mayor was even quoted saying to his Father. " magagaling yung mga bata at malakas pumalo, baka mabagalan sa atin" They informed the marshall that they would just let the Dela Paz group play through and the marshall informed the Mr. Dela Paz of this. (Just as an aside, the investigative group actually asked the group behind Dela paz if indeed they had complained about the slow down and the group said that the y said no such thing to the Dela paz flight. They were not even in contact at anytime before they arrived at the tee house to see the fight and eventually help stop it.) When the Delapaz group reached the green of hole 5, the caddies of the 2 kids gave them their drivers so that they would waste no time playing through. The Mayor, who at that time was sitting along with their companions, stood up to personally tell Mr. Dela Paz to play through. Caddies, and the tee house server claim that the Mayor told Dela Paz na "Mauna na ho kayo" and walked to approach Dela Paz, The response of Dela Paz was "Huwag mo akong pagtaasan ng boses" Dela Paz began to question the Mayor why they were playing as a fivesome. The Mayor said that this was not the case but Dela Paz was insisting and even said (again corroborated by the caddies) "Linoloko mo ba ako?" "Member ka ba dito, Kilala mo ba ako?" (as you can see, this question did not come from Pangandaman. In fact, in the recorded testimony, this is exactly what Pangandaman claimed delapaz had said to him and yet in Delapaz' recorded statement, he never said that the mayor asked him " kilala mo ba ako" Completely different from when the media was already involved.
When Delapaz was posing the above question, the mayor was heard to say. "Sandali lang, hindi naman tayo nagaaway dito. Akala ko ba naayos na natin yung issue kanina sa hole 3? At about this point Delapaz closed his umbrella and then poked the mayor on his stomach using the pointed end ( some caddies say Dela Paz swung the umbrella and some say that he poked the Mayor) The investigative board asked Dela Paz what he did, he said that he poked the Mayor in self defense. When asked who was attacking him, Dela Paz said that he was being surrounded by 4 men. The caddies and other witnesses on hand said that when the umbrella incident happened, it was only Dela Paz and the mayor that were talking. The other parties were in the tee house about 15-20 yards away. The Mayor says he was poked and so he backed off and just as he was about to be poked again, his brother, Hussein ran and attacked Delapaz and hit Delapaz knocking him to the ground.( At this point the commotion took place. One of the things observed is 14-year old Bino hit the Mayor with his driver. Apparently, the mayor parried with his forearm and hand so this is where he sustaned the injury. In the process also, Hussein was being pulled off the older dela paz by his 2 children but again Bino was seen to hit Hussein in the face and head while Bambee had scratched the other side of Husseins face. At this time also, witnesses say, that 3 or 4 other members of the flight excluding the Secretary, the 8-year old boy, and the girlfriend of Hussein were involved in attacking or subduing the older dela paz but this lasted very shortly and when the combatants had been separated the existing people in the tee house as well as the new flight that was playing behind the dela paz's.
At this point the Secretary told the delapaz group to leave so as to avoid any more trouble. As the elder delapaz was leaving he was heard calling someone on his cellphone saying " may away kami, pumunta kayo dito"
No one knew who delapaz was speaking to as he walked away towards the main clubhouse. A few minutes later, the secretary and his group decided to end the day instead of continuing to play. When they got to the clubhouse, Hussein wanted to wash up because he was bleeding in the neck area. As he got near the reception area, he saw delapaz and was heard to have said "O, nandito pa pala kayo" to which Dela Paz said "Hindi pa tapos ito gaganti pa kami". At this point, Bino got in between his Dad and Hussein while saying " Tatandaan ka namin" (None of the witnesses in the clubhouse, and there were many, ever saw Bino kneel and say that he was only 14 years old at maawa na sila) On the contrary, Bino was acting like anything but a helpless child. He sounded tough, angry, and antagonistic enough that the fight broke out again. At this point, the bodyguards of the Mayor ran into the clubhouse via the poolside entrance. When questioned about this, the mayor said that one was his driver and the other was his "Yayo". As far as the board was concerned, the "Yayo" was also a bodyguard. Said Yayo came into the clubhouse with a clutchbag containing a gun and brought out the gun without pointing it at anyone. The Mayor immediately instructed him that there was no need for guns and the gun was put back. During the investigation, the Mayor said that the handgun was his and that his "yayo" was likely going to give it to him but he declined. Upon instructing his "yayo", the man just stayed in one corner. At this time the wife of Dela Paz and his other son arrived. The son was wielding a baseball bat and the wife had a knife which she pulled out of a scabbard. These two were subdued by security but they were verbally threatening the Pangandaman's during this time. There was also a reported incident where the driver of the mayor ran out and came back with a suitcase containing a supposed armalite as claimed by valley security. The driver never pulled it out or pointed it at anyone but it was readily accesible.
"Blogger Boyd said...
"...We play the 5th hole and walk towards the next hole, where there is a teehouse, and both the flights in front of us were there, talking with the marshall. The mayor of Masiu City, Lanao del Sur talks with my dad. Things get heated up. Voices were raised. But never, in my wildest dreams, did I ever imagine that someone would pull out a punch."
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Seriously, that is it?
Nothing in between those moments? Are we supposed to be objective on this statements right away, because thats a lot of room to be misleading through a blog.
Now, Im betting the truth will come out soon and I cannot wait to see who fouled.
Remember, Anything can said can and will be used against the person in a court of law.
Thanks for the blogging its making everything easy."
Hey Boyd...or is it Naseer or Hussein perhaps? Whatever...
Nice try, but the bloggers here are not stupid as you may believe.
The only way for the Pangandemonyo's to overcome the case(s) filed against them is through manipulation, abuse of power, influence and money. Which by the way is expected, considering that he is one of the "alaga" of GMA. Why would GMA enrage her "ally" from Mindanao, she might run the risk of another rebellion in the south...apart from what is happening right now.
So for us bloggers, we just resort to the net to express our feelings towards those PIGS! Because no matter how you twist and spin the story, the bottomline is that the Pangandamans are ABUSIVE, ARROGANT, INHUMANE, IGNORANT and most especially COWARDS!
Libel??...oh really now...SO SUE US! LOL..why not sue the whole internet community while your at it? LOL
And yeah I have to agree with you, blogging indeed is making things easy LOL Thanks for reminding us hahahaha
Man this guys make me sick!!
i hope they burn in hell,
So sorry to hear about all this. Has any of the local media picked this up yet? It's an important story that NEEDS TO BE COVERED.
If any member of the Filipino media community reads this post, please consider covering this story.
This would be absolutely unacceptable in any first world nation - it is JUST AS unacceptable in a developing country.
i got the link to your post from carlos conde's blog.
sana mabulok sa kulungan ang mga pangamdaman na yan. when i watched your interview (together with ur parents and brother) in Umagang Kay Ganda, i felt terrible... i pray for justice for your family.
markado na sa akin yang mga hayup nyan. pag nakita ko yang mga abusadong tarantadong hinayupak na yan dito sa los angeles. sila naman ang pagugulungin namin ng mga bata ko. isasama ko rin yung mga alalay nya.
ang kakapal ng mukha... binaluktot pa and istorya. eh ano kung may posisyon sila, dapat inisip nila na dapat mas marunong silang makitungo. mga bobo! dito sa states ay patas lang kami, baka lamang pa ako.
kaya pagpumunta kayo dito. watch your back nasser, you will feel my boot up in your ass. hooraaah!
ganyan ang mga klase ng TAO meron ang Gobyernong Arroyo... Me and my family will include you and your family in our prayers, and hope that justice be served, although i doubt with this govt., pero siguradong di sila makaliligtas sa BATAS NG DIYOS!!! I will also send your story to everybody in my list..God Bless Us ALL!!
Fight! Don't negotiate. It's time to stand up and put thier feet back on the ground
Fight! Don't negotiate. It's time to stand up and put thier feet back on the ground
I've been following a discussion thread on www.PinoyGolfer.com, and someone posted a forwarded email of your blog... could that be the reason why your url reads "the world is fucked up"?
I hope you enlighten us on this matter.
http://www.pinoygolfer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5801&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=pangandaman&start=330
@bai la bi - your damn idiot you know. Kulang ka sa hulog ata.... dapat sa mga katulad ni mayor at iba pa nya mga kasama ay firing squad para mabura sa mundo at hindi kumalat ang lahi..... You think I'm too harsh... think again... they worth it believe me... kasi gagamitin nila ang kapangyarihan nila at pera para manalo...
To all valley golf employee who witnessed the incident:
Sana lang po ay tulungan nyu ang de la paz family para mapahiya ang pamilya ng pangandamon at makulong sa bilibid... Ibalik dapat ang death penalty at sila ang bwena mano.....
Wag po kayo matakot sa mga yan at gagabayan kayo ng Diyos. marami pong tao ang susuporta sa inyu at makikiisa sa paglitaw ng tunay na nangyari. Ang inyung pagtahimik sa kaso at hindi pagtestify sa tunay na nangyari ay isa pong kasalanan inde lamang po sa mga dela paz bagkus maging sa inyung konsensya at prinsipyo.
Tignan nyu nalang po si Bolante.. sobrang halata na ang pangsisinungaling pero patuloy pa din pinoprotektahan ang kanyang amo. Akala nya na makakalusot sya dahil protektado sya pero ang masakit po na mangyayari at nangyayari na nga po sa ngayun na ANG KAHIHIYAN NG KANYANG MGA ANAK, ASAWA AT MGA KAMAG-ANAK.. BIRUIN NYU NA SI JOC JOC ANG SISIRA SA PANGALAN NG BOLANTE. ISA ITONG MALAKING KAHIHIYAN NA DADANASIN HINDI LAMANG NG KANYANG PAMILYA BAGKUS MAGING ANG SUSUNOD NA HENERASYON.
Ngayun po, sa mga nakakita ng mga pangyayari, gusto nyo po ba na manatiling tahimik at hayaang nag iisa ang mga de la paz??? HINDI PO BA NA ISA ITONG KAHIHIYAN SA PARTE NYU KUNG HINDI KAYO LALABAS AT MAGSASABI NG TOTOO? I guess all of you are far more better than bolante who sold his dignity, principle and everything just to please his AMO... DO U WANT TO BE LIKE THIS?????
More power and support to De la Paz.. God bless po sa inyung pamilya at sa lahat ng sumusoporta
From your kababayan sa M.E.
Abu
mga peeps, try to see one significant issue again...
http://philippinecommentary.blogspot.com/2009/01/major-ferdinand-marcelino-another-j-lo.html
involving one cabinet secretary din, secretary of injustice. ang kasabwat para ma abswelto ang pangandamanssssssssssss...
we can start doing something by getting pictures of those government officials playing golf and posting these pictures at you tube ...nakukuha pa nilang maggolf eh ang daming trabaho para baguhin ang pilipinas para mapaunlad...cguro naman mahihiya sila pag nakikita nila ang mukha nila dun kung di mahiya...makakapal talaga ..yung pang golf nyo (mga Pulitiko) itulong na lang sa mahihirap...
wish ko lang ngayong 2009 lahat ng golf courses gawing football/soccer field para pang masa ...para affordable naman sa nakakaraming tao para...yung mga illicit/illegal transaction katulad ng nabuking na telecommunication deal eh dun nila gawin sa tagong lugar tsaka pag naging project ng gobyerno yan ...madaming trabaho yan para sa tao...mabawasan yung unemployment problema malaking project malaking kickback....wahhh saan tayo lulugar
Gunny Sergent - USMC abangan mo sila sa LA at ako ang bahala dito sa Toronto. Nakaukit na sa memory ko ang mga mukha nila at ibabalato ko sila sa mga ka-tropa kong mga egot at vietnamese! Baka mai-BBQ sila dito..
Bakit hindi gayahin ni Pangandemon Sr. si Dave Brodette na kahit kapatid ang ama ng isang Alabang Boys ay yung katotohanan ang pinapalabas kahit na magkasira sila magkapatid? Gayahin din sana siya ng mga kamaganak ni Garci, Bolante, Abalos at higit sa lahat ang mga Arroyo's para sa susunod na haharap kayo sa panginoong maykapal sa simbahan ay talagang malinis ang inyong konsensya at spirito........
I dont usually post comments on blogs but i just saw the unworthy Secretary on TV pleading to stop the blogs. So lets keep blogging and posting, its hurting them. Lets keep the awareness alive so that in our own little ways,some part of the electorate will be enlightened, and stop voting for goons and hoodlums to public office. Bambi, my prayers for you and your family. Its a tough fight but you have to keep on!
An editorial on this dreadful event is online at http://www.philnews.com/2009/01a.htm where tens of thousands of readers access it each day.
Good luck in your quest for justice.
the system is so corrupt that well-connected politicos are able to escape the wrath of justice.however, you have no choice but to file criminal and administrative case against the culprits.
the ABBs used to dispense a swifter justice.
Damn bastards shouldn't be allowed in any golf course!! Not only they don't have the etiquette to play the game, they, too, do NOT possess the manners of a gentleman.
Bambi, I'll be praying for you and your family. I live in California and been following the story wherever I can. I sincerely hope that the case ends up in your favor. I still can't comprehend how in the world they have the right to counter sue when the whole world knows they're the bastards they are!!
Politicians, my ASS!! They can kiss my brown butt!!!
hope that justice will be equally served...
another GMA alliance... your fight will be tougher than ever but I do hope na manalo kyo sa case nyo...
oo nga, heto ang mga nangungunang mga sinungaling sa gobyerno:
1. Mr. & Mrs. Macapagal-Arroyo
2. Garci "hello Garci"
3. Abalos "ZTE Commisioner"
4. Bolante "Joc joc of Scam Architecture"
5. Pangandaman "Boxer in Golf Sport"
nyahahaha!
im praying for your family.
I hope everything is ok now.
May mga politikong mababait pero karamihan sa kanila ay nakamaskara lamang. Akala mo kakampi ng mga maralita pero, iba pala ang hangarin..
Isa akong biktima ng pangwawalang-hiya ng isang dati kong among kongresista. Pagkaharap siya ng mga tao, aba, akala mo maamong tupa, ibang-iba sa kanyang pag-uugali pag-nasa loob na siya ng kwarto.
Sana maaga nyo agad itong malampasan lahat!
sosyal kasi ang sport nyo...pa golf golf...kung ang gastos nyo sa sport nyo ay ibibigay nyo sa mahihirap eh di mas maganda...yan ang napala nyo sa sobrang kasosyalan nyo
The interview done by a reporter with Nasser Pangandaman while the latter was golfing with the the Arroyos shows what kind of people we have in the government now. Without delicadesa...without a slight concience...but with a big stomach for irregularities and injustices. It was not a smart move by Pangandaman but the dumbest he could ever done. The Filipinos are not ignorant.
I am proud and I fully support the dela Paz family's decision to file a case against this abusive people in power. I know the farmers who have been in front of DAR are happy knowing that the DAR monster and his family is in this BIG s*** right now.
Bambee and family, you are doing the right thing!
one of your former MC teachers
Sana i-resurrect ng mga taong labas ang mga ABB'S para malinis na naman ang mga kalawang sa Pilipinas!!!
It is just right that these scumbags are exposed!!! Fuck that libel case against you, they just wanna hide all the truth! These scumbag politicians deserves to burn in hell! They are supposed to be public servants, and not to be above its citizens! The best way to make a better country is to clean up this world from these scumbag politicians. Sana when they said "kilala mo ba sino kami", then you guys could have said, "yeah, some mother fuckers ready to suck our shits"
OMG.. the world realy gone crazy!!! This certain dela paz family try to exploit the POOR by portrayng that they are the POOR in their fight against the Pangandamuns so that they can win the heart of the masses.
The truth is they are not POOR and dont exploit the poor honey.. poor can never be a member of exclusive golf club, neihter play golf nor can study in the "for rich" educational institution for their schooling.
The dela paz family really is the one to be blame for what happened to them. They thought because ang galing galing ng mga ank nila kaya they own the world... come to think of this!!! Poor ba yong family na palagi guest sa mga TV, Radio and even print media.
Dont sensationalize the issue because mas marami dapat pagtoonan ng pansin tulad ng corruption sa governo as vividly shown sa sa alabang boys drug scandal..
Stop exaggenrating the issue.. nakakahiya kayo. SO SELFISH!!!! FILE YOUR CASE IN COURT AND LEAVE IT THEIR. DONT INVOLVE THE WHOLE NATION IN YOU FIGHT.. This is your personal venditta..
Why do politicians act as though they are all high and mighty. Government people are supposedly civil servants. I just hope that you will get your justice and more and that the mayor and his buddies will get what they deserve someday.
what a shame!! i almost believed
everything you wrote, as many of us did!!
next time, take more responsibility
when blogging. if you still don't
know, credibility is everything.
when all the smoke has died down,
you would have done more damage to
your own family than the pangandamans ever have.
i will understand if you don't post
this comment. and that would be
just fine with me.
Im one of those who first read your blog right after the incident....and immidiately I sympathized and sided with your family, even without seeing first the other side of the coin. Im even one of thos who receieved your email to your friends where you based this blog. Yes I have the original version, where you used so many "colorful" language....thats why the URL of this blog is "world-is-fucked-up.html". Now you changed that email version into a more "subtle" version in this blog.
Anyway, why didnt you include "all details" of the incident? You mentioned in the 3rd paragraph that "things get heated up, voices were raised", then one thing led to another. Can you please elaborate and give us a more detailed report? WHY DID things get heated up? WHO made things get heated up? I see you omit that part.
Also, why didnt you include in your blog that part where you and your brother intentionally hit your balls to the direction of the Pangandamans where they almost got hit? Thats a "mortal sin" in the game of golf. Im sure you know that since you are a golf scholar. Its either your dad consented your actions to get even with the Pangandamans who overtook your flight, or your dad instructed you to do it. Again I see you omit that part.
Also I see you didnt mention that part where your brothers came as resbak with baseball bats with them.
At sino ba talaga sa inyo ang nagsabi na "Hindi mo ako kilala"? Ang Pangandaman nga ba....or ang Dad mo?
Hmmm so many details you omitted.
You see I have heard many past stories from golfers in Valley Golf na minsan arrogant and disrespectful din kayo lalo na sa mga golfers na hindi kasing galing sa inyo. Yet pinalalagpas lang nila kase mas "powerful at kilala" kayo kaysa kanila.
I personally think this is a case of "bully meets bully"...nakahanap ng katapat ikanga. Unfortunately yung kilalang bully natalo pero hindi matanggap ang pagkatalo so they resorted to get sympathy through media and through blogging.
Yet pinalalabas nyo sa media na "poor" kayo against the rich and powerful politicians. I must admit that the Pangandamans are filthy righ and powerful and abusado and they should not be sitting in a government position, shame on them....pero PLEASE dont ever portray yourself na "poor" kayo. The size of your house, your income, your business, your golf hobby, the exclusive schools you attend to, golf scholarships abroad....is not and never will be considered as POOR, not even considered as "middle-class". Iniinsulto nyo lang ang mga totooong poor.
I dont side with the Pangandamans nor with you. Im neutral, and I only want the TRUTH. So if you want people to believe in you, please try to TELL ALL, tell everything, tell all details, dont omit any important details in your report of the incident. Be credible. AND dont ever say your family is "poor".
Nakikita ko na ang ending ng storya nato. You guys will end up in an "out-of-court" settlement....because you know na kayo ang nagpasimuno ng gulo, so to save your face, hindi nyo itutuloy ang kaso dahl baka lumabas ang katotohanan mapahiya lang kayo. So I will understand if you settle just for that, kahit na other comments here are pleading you to fight and not settle it out-of-court.
Kase kung talagang totoo ka, your are telling the truth at alam mong kayo ang nasa tama...ipaglalaban nyo talaga yan sa korte.
Guys,
What story are your reading???
i read about your blog at the philippine daily inquirer..and i'd say..they suck bigtime.no manners.bad people.they should pay for what they did.i pray that justice would prevail in your case..though i do not know you personally.may god bless your family.hope that your 'scream' for justice would not be futile.
my brother is your bro's batchmate. I hope that pathetic mayor and his dad get what they deserve. They're supposed to be serving the people and yet here they are ganging up on a 56 yo man and his kid. What gives them the right to punch a defenseless little kid? i'll pray for you guys and i really hope justice prevails. I'll help spread the word too. :)
Hi...I just heard it on radio 99.5rt last night and could not believed how insensitive this official was.
Take care always my dear...
Apparently, after talking to some members and witnesses, it seems that you are only telling half-truths and didn't come with clean hands.
Your family already has a reputation and you now have the temerity of complaining of a treatment which you have brought upon yourself and your family.
I hope the incident has been a lesson for you and your family. Never pick on anyone even if he looks small. You never know, he just might be bigger than you...
SIGH, ANOTHER COMMENT.
ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT THE PANGANDAMANS ARE LIKE ISRAEL AND ITS USE OF EXCESSIVE FORCE.
MOSTLY CHRISTIAN PINOYS ARE GUILTY OF DOUBLE STANDARDS: CONDONING ISRAEL.
The pangandemonyo are at it again. Now they want to go against freedom of speech. These damn-ass pangandamans just don't get it, you (pangandemonyo) assaulted a 56yr and a 14yr old. Doesn't matter who said what, you beat up those 2 individuals not just once, but twice. And your bodyguards have the nerve to pull out their guns. They should bring back death penalty for people the likes of pangandamas.
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/143473/Bambee-sued-for-libel-over-blog-entry-says-DAR-chief
"Libel: A libel case consists of published material with the following criteria: (1) The material is defamatory; (2) the written statements are about someone who is identifiable and living; (3) the material is distributed to someone other than the victim. A key in a libel case is that the victim's reputation must suffer as a result of these written words in order for the action to be actionable." - http://www.munley.com/business_law/legal_glossary_l.html
Ouch. A lot of people committed libel here already... And for me, I think this article does have some potentials for libel given that I've read that there is an original post which was then edited to better suit a general audience.
I've read dino's post and I do agree with him that this post seems to be one-sided. Like him, I'm not siding with either party. If you truly want justice, practice fairness in both sides. Lopsidedness is not justice. And pride is never ever good when it comes to brawls.
Oh yeah. To all those who believe this has nothing to do with golf, unfortunately for you people, it HAS everything to do with golf.
I'm not a golfer myself but I've learned from my uncle a few rules of golf that the flight with lesser members (e.g. threesomes) should let/allow the flight with more members (e.g. foursomes) play first.
Just a note. Justice is not weighed with emotions but with facts. Facts.
Why I'm posting here is because this subject matter (GOLF) interests me and if I can, I would contribute what I know of that could pinpoint as to who started these all.
Blogger Salvador
Hindi ikaw ang blogger mokong. Commentator ka lang ni Bambee hehe. So problem Bro. Hindi ka kasili later on sa libel LoL.
Now, as I said the case is now on the court. Sssssh! Do I hear amicable settlement from the Dela Paz's? Please no settlement. Let the truth comes out. I want liars buried.
Now, kong gusto nila ipa suspend si Sec Pangandams, e de pa talsik na. Basta walang settlement. We will hang the liars.
Pasensya na pare. Hindi si Nasser ito. LoL! Be objective lang. Kong ikaw ang mag sabi parang nandoon ka. Matinung utak bayan? Hehehe. Now let the truth come out. We will hang the offender. No matter how cute. LoL Be happy about whats going on, let it play. Baka hypertension ka dyan hehehe. Pasensya at ang tagal kong naka reply.LoL
to the philippine daily idiot:
yeah, Christians should condone muslim terrorists instead.
and double standards? do you even know what it means?
dude, just shut up and go buy yourself a life.
Blogger Salvador says:
"...So for us bloggers, we just resort to the net to express our feelings towards those PIGS".
LoL!
Feelings, nothing more than Feelings...
Hehehe. I hope everything we heard so far has nothing to do with feelings. LoL.
What a crap. Seriously. We want in betweens... real meat.
i feel the intense cruelty that your family suffered from the demoniacs politicians and their allies. and they came from the same genes carrying the wrath and rotten ways of the DEVIL. truly, they should be rotten in jail of what they did to your father and brother.
its so sad to know that the golf course staff just keep their mouth shut and their eyes close although they are fully aware and alert of what happened. that golf course should be closed for not speaking up because they follow more what these insane people did than standing and fighting for justice. they (golf course) are harboring and entertaining the devils that exist in our society. no wonder our country stays deep in the mud because of these type of leaders we have.
i just pray and hope that the case of your family will be handled by a court of law with virtue and integrity not their allies and compadres. SO THAT JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL AND WILL BE SERVED IN ITS FULLNESS. not being controlled by sick politicians and justice system.
i will include you and your family in my prayers.
To Lizzy: So lets say it all has to do with rules and regulations of the game Golf. Does beating/assaulting a 14yr old and his father not just once but twice called for?
people quickly give their symapthy to bambee and her family. but what if the dela paz really started the fight? can we just rely on the accounts of this lady. but what if the dela paz's really did intentionally try to hit some balls towards the pangandamans? do you think they still deserve the public's sympathy. if they really did try to hit the pangadamans with their golf balls, they they are as much to blame for the fight than the pangadamans. and i don't think bambee deserves that golf scholarship in the states. still, i wish you luck with your libel case. and i also wish the pangadamans luck with their political career. may they be the worst of luck. i hope you both destroy each others lives. the philippines is already brimming full of arrogant, power-drunk people like the pangandamans and the dela paz. from what i gather, both sides have no class. kahit na mayayaman, parang wala pa din pinagaralan. yep, you are right bambee, THE WORLD HAS GONE CRAZY with crazy people like you and the pangadamans.
lets spread the word!! power of the blog and freedom of speech...
bambi prayers to you and your family!
Mukhang high on drugs sila nung naglalaro ng golf ikaw na gumulpi ng 56 and 14 yr old tapos public servant ka pa...
Mayor, Mayor ang bangis mo tangina ka! may oras karin at pag dumating yung oras na yun sana nandun kming lht para makita na ginugulpi ka at walang tumutulong sayo gago!!!
Mahiya ka hindi bagay sayo tawagin isang pinoy pootha ang masakit dito ako pa ang nagpapa-sweldo sayo sa mga taxes na binabayaran ko gugulpi ka lng ng bata at maglalaro ka lng ng golf!
ngayon alam ko na kung bkt walang nangyayari sa DAR and Mindanao..
This libel case case isn't going anywhere. This is the Pangadamans way of trying to protect their identities, though their stupidity has already been established. Sa madaling salita gusto lang nila na maghugas. They and their lawyers probably does not understand that there is really a difference between blogs and newspapers. Don't be afraid Bambee, we all know you are the TRUTH and to those Pangandaman supporter on here, you all know the Pangandamans are liars and lying. Be truthful to yourselves.
Hi I would like to commend you on posting your blog I have read what the other camp has done because of your blog. A person who is in the public trust ie. mayor or police officer, is accountable for his/her actions. Good luck on your case and I hope you win.
Mr. Conde is dreaming in his comment at GMAnews.TV. Why has he live really being poor?
The truth is there is no justice for poor Filipinos like us. Most bloggers are well off and have their own computers with DSL connection at home.
Poor people like me do only blog at internet cafes. Not only that majority of Filipinos especially in the countryside (of where I came from) do not know what blog is.
Education is the key to solve poverty and injustice but it seems it is slowly eroding when fixcals, corrupt law enforcers are sprouting like mushrooms in our midst.
You are dreaming Mr. Conde like your NUJP buddies you better all stay awake and your feet on the ground!
Hoy Gising panarapo sa inyo laway gatulo samtang tulog! Tsk tsk tsk
Just came across this discussion among golfers, one of them apparently in the valley management or something ...
http://www.pinoygolfer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5801&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=pangandaman&start=180
Oh well...
"In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr.
Bobby Kennedy - "Laws can embody standards; governments can enforce laws--but the final task is not a task for government. It is a task for each and every one of us. Every time we turn our heads the other way when we see the law flouted--when we tolerate what we know to be wrong--when we close our eyes and ears to the corrupt because we are too busy, or too frightened-- when we fail to speak up and speak out--we strike a blow against freedom and decency and justice."
WELL MY COMMENT ON THIS IS THAT THIS IS TRUE DURING MARTIN LUTHER KING"S time.
TODAY WHEN YOU ASSERT YOU ARE RIGHT AND TALK ALOUD AND EVEN GRANTING YOU ONLY FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS YOU ARE RIDICULED, SHOT, MAULED and worst jailed for libel!
Is the WORLD really gone crazy? Yes it is long time ago...
@TOpinoy
Everyone knows it is punishable to abuse a minor like the 14-year old DelaPaz. But does BINO wear a shirt that says "I am 14-years old"???
Pero matanong kita....kung ikaw ang nasa sitwasyon. Bino attacks you with a golf club. You didnt know he is 14 years old. He is 5'6" and 140lbs. What would you do???? Would you ask him for a time-out first and ask him his age? Now even if he tells you he is 14-years old, would you believe right away? How would you know he really is 14 years old considering his height and weight bigger than you? I mean anybody can say he is 14 years old!
Now even if he is telling the truth that he is 14 yrs old....would you still not defend yourself and let him hit you with his golf club? What if kung natamaan ka ng matindi hindi ka na magising? Okay lang kase 14-yr-old lang sya? Hypocrite! GET REAL!
If I am the person Bino is going to attack with a swing of his golf club, I will surely defend myself, do something even before he hits me. Assuming I survive his first attack, I will surely punch him real hard in the face knock him down or cripple him to make sure he cannot swing that golf club again at me. Then sa korte na kami maghaharap. Remember....that 14-yr-old kid, who in the first place during the brawl you didnt know the age, is 140lbs and 5'6"!
Well lets say "kahit na, dapat hindi papatol pag 14-yrs-old". Matanong kita...wala ka bang alam o wala ka ba naririnig na mga holdaper or snatcher na 14-yrs old? Ano gagawin mo pag isang 14-yr-old eh hoholdapin ka or papasuking ka sa bahay nyo sa gabi para magnakaw or patayin kayo? Patatawarin mo dahil 14-yr-old pa sya? GET REAL!
AGAIN, remember....that 14-yr-old kid, who in the first place during the brawl you didnt know his age, is 140lbs and 5'6".
I dont know with you guys, baka mga weakling kayo nung 14 pa kayo, but when I was that age, I am very aware what trouble or damage I am capable of.
Dino,
You're right, you wouldnt know if a person was 14 years old unless sabihin nya sa yo....But then, knowledge of it doesnt mean that a counter strike isnt possible...or on the other hand, people have been known to inflict harm to a person irregardless of age...mapa 6 months old to 85 years old, walang impossible.
I would look beyond the age issue here because there was a story somewhere about an 8-year old pangandaman kid who they say was almost hit by a golf ball....it clouds the discussion and becomes an emotional issue.
I would rather condemn the act itself.
Have a nice day!
Wow. Dragging a "traumatised" 8-year-old into this mess AND slapping a libel suit over an online blog? Methinks the DAR chief is overcompensating for something!
Bambee, heard the news? Yung makapal ng mukha na Pangandaman Jr kinasuhan ka ng libel dahil sa blog na ito! THIS IS SUPPRESSION OF FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION! Damn it. Sana nga ngayong ding araw na ito MAMATAY NA YUNG MGA PULITIKO NA IYAN.
CALLING MILF, ABU-SAYYAF, NPA, ALQAIDA. PLEASE KILL NASSER PANGANDAMAN SR AND HIS SONS!
this is a classic example of how politicians in Mindanao been doing...
they have private armies in the guise of "protecting themselves from terrorists like MILF/ASG" that in the real sense, THEY WERE THE TRUE TERRORISTS!
look now, these filthy Pangandamans filed a libel case against Bambee in THEIR LOCALITY! they're totally sick! their guilt smells like their souls been burned in hell. why not face the Dela Paz where the incident took place? why bring it home? clearly, they want a HOMETOWN DESCISION on the case.
can anybody here organize how to send donations to Bambee and family? we have to let these Pangandamans know that Filipinos will not tolerate this kind of stupidity.
What a terrible thing to happen to your family. People really have gone crazy. What they have done is totally demeaning and anger-provoking. Those people really do deserve to go to hell. But that's exactly the same reason why we shouldn't condemn them. They have already condemned their own selves by what they have done. Whatever good or evil a man does, he does to himself, says Jesus. Imagine them going to hell for all eternity. Will it really make us happy, or would we be happier to pray for them instead and see them converted like the prodigal son, welcomed with joy by everyone in heaven? To tell you the truth, pity should be felt more for the attackers rather than the victims. If we compare the suffering of these people in a possible eternity in hell and your family in just days here on earth, that is reason enough not to condemn them. Only Jesus has the authority to judge, and to bring justice. That is what purgatory is for. Because all of us should be condemned for we are all sinners in different ways and degrees. If we have a member of our own family who have done the same evil to someone, we wouldn't wish for him to go to hell, we would only try to correct him because we love him, and wish only for his conversion. And aren't we all brothers and sisters in Christ? We shouldn't wish for anyone to go to hell. Even God allows evil men to live longer. You might have heard of the saying,"Matagal mabuhay ang masamang damo". God delays justice knowing that there is hope for conversion, because come to think of it, God has the whole eternity to punish them! Rather, we should wish for them to see the light of what they had done and for them to repent before it is too late.
With regards to the sufferings you experienced in the hands of these people, it is a gift that you can give to God. Sufferings are our only gift we can offer to God, for what else can we give to the Almighty Father? Because Jesus Himself suffered for us. You can very well offer your sufferings to God as a sacrifice in order to merit the conversion of your offenders. Then, you will be Christ-like. This is how we save souls. This is how we take part in God's plan of salvation, by praying for others, even our enemies. All of us are given the power to save souls, both living and dead, while we are on earth. And this power is prayer for others.
May you be enlightened by the Holy Spirit. Your family is a victim of the evil of men. But worse for your offenders, they are victims of the evil one who is on the brink of destroying their souls for eternity, so let us be more compassionate and merciful to them.
nakikisimpatiya ako. kaya hindi umaasenso ang pilipinas dahil sa mga taong katulad nila.
Truly, I say, this is "no country for [decent people]." This stuff actually happens everyday, everywhere in this gangland we call the Philippines. Except that you were brave enough to report this to the media.
Better watch your backs, these people will KILL. They are the local MAFIA. They will cut off your fingers for typing in your blog about that incident.
They will do EVERYTHING they can to prove they're above everybody else.
Always pray. These people won't stop. What you see in those action movies won't even compare to what they will do to your family when they get the chance.
these kind of politicians think they are powerful and immortals...INGRATE AND RUTHLESS...when during the election period would plead the voters to put them into power....after getting what they wanted, they woiuld not even heed the plea of this hapless victim...showing-off that they are the powerful evils of this really crazy world..
yes, i will pray for the eternal unrest of their souls in hell...
Local leaders of the local government units and National Leaders as well, are expected to maintain peace, and to promote peace as well, but not act like a terrorist specially in public.....what they have shown is not really acceptable! I expect leaders (elected and appointed) to be a public servant thereby promoting peace and harmony among us, but not to sow terror and arrogance to the constituents the are serving!!! I pray to the dela paz family, don't be afraid... God is with you!
hm... who is telling the truth indeed? Ah well... hopefully everything gets settled soon. =)
such courage coming from an 18y/o!
it used to be that power and position humbled a public servant(magsaysay and aquino comes to mind).nowadays,forget it!this type of incident involving politicians is so sickening that it actually hurts to admit that i live in the philippines!
I live in Scotland in the UK. I've just read your blog. I am shocked and disgusted. I hope your father and brother have recovered from their injuries and I hope that you have recovered from the shock. I hope all the men responsible for this are stripped of their power and thrown in jail. This man should not be a politician; he is a street thug. This would never happen in my country and it should never happen in yours. I pray that justice will be done and that your country will become a safer place to live. I will be thinking of you and your family and keeping up-to-date with your news. Peace be with you.
Nakakadismaya dahil may balak daw kayo makipag-ayos sa mga PanganDEMON (out of court settlement) at hindi niyo na ipa-file ang suspensyon ng mga mag-ama sa Ombudsman.....Ano ba naman yan, sa kabila ng mga sakit na nakuha niyo at sa dami ng mga sumusuporta sa inyo ay mauuwi lang sa lahat....Kaya hindi nadadala at napaparusahan ang mga katulad ng mga PanganDEMONyo na yan dahil sa mga pakikipagayos na yan....Sayang lang at sana ay ituloy niyo...
TO MAT, PLS. EXPOUND ON DOUBLE STANDARDS. DO YOUR RESEARCH, OK? BETTER YET, IDENTIFY YOURSELF.
to the philippine daily idiot:
you were the one who used the term double standard. why should i expound on it for you.
why would it be better for me to identify myself. what would that accomplish? i am mat. and you are the philippine daily idiot (i am not calling you an ignoramus, just merely stating your moniker). and that is that.
by the way, here's a snippet from gmanew.tv: "The Valley Golf management said that based on their probe, it was Dela Paz who instigated the fight." not saying it is completely true. just want people here to realize that one must not jump into conclusion based on a one-sided story.
i wonder what is the next thing that the de la paz apologists will say, now that valley golf expells Dela Paz and only suspends for two years the dar chief.
valley golf concluded that de la paz instigated the fight!
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/metro/view/20090110-182506/Support-for-the-Dela-Pazes-wasted
is this article true?!? have you lost your mind? ... your world is really gone crazy!
@ John Doe, dino, lulu and lizzy
I think you guys are nuts. Mga pakawala kayo siguro ni mayor pangandemon nohh....
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I just read a report from GMA news http://www.gmanews.tv/story/143663/Dela-Paz-expelled-DAR-chief-suspended-over-brawl that Valley golf club suspended the pangandemons and but the dela paz's were expelled... WOW GRABE NAMAN ANG PARUSA NA IPANATAW NILA SA MGA DELA PAZ????. HAYYYY NAGTATAKA LANG NAMAN AKO BAKIT GANITO ANG NAGING DECISION NG BOARD SAMANTALANG NAAGRABYADO ANG MGA DELA PAZ..... INDE KO TULOY MALAMAN KUNG TAKOT KAYO SA MGA PANGANDEMONS O NABAYARAN KAYO????? KALUOY DONG...... Style Alabang boys na ata nangyayari dito ^_^
To dela paz... continue fighting. I know na pader ang kalaban nyu pero wag po kayo mag alala dahil nasa likod nyu po ang sambayanang pilipino. Ikinalat ko na sa lahat ng email address ang issue na ito at rest be assured na we will keep on blogging until you get justice from these bad guys.
hayyyy kakahiya talaga sila. Naturingan pa mandin na government official = public servant eh kabaligtaran pla government official=using the public their servant.. peste talaga
I feel you Bambee, for every single word you typed in this blog post of yours. I feel your pain that you poured out here. I hope that justice will be served soon if there's even such a thing in this country. If there is someone at all that can help you in your quest for justice, I pray that you will have the help you need in your struggles.
If words could kill, I am sure yours would pierce deep into the souls of the people who did these things to your family.
Just heard the news about the expulsion and suspension. Hayyyyy....ganito ba talaga sa Pinas? Nakakahiya na talaga.
Anyway hindi niyo na talaga kelangan bumalik sa golf course na yun. Sa iba na lang.
Continue fighting. I'll pray for you and your family. God Bless.
Hey dnt worry! dnt worry sa libel!
desperado na mga trigger happy na pangandaman brothers!
we all pray for you! take care!!
Death to Pangandaman Brothers!
Paging! Alex Boncayao Brigade!
hi there! I hope that everything is pushing through.. My prayers goes to you and your family..
Iisa lang ang nangyari sa pagkaka-kansela ng membership ng mga Dela Paz at suspensyon lang ng Sr. PanganDEMON. Binayaran yung mga duwag ng cuddies na nawalan ng B&^#G o as I've said over and over again na binenta nila ang kanilang kaluluwa kapalit ng kanilang dignidad. ONLY IN THE PHILIPPINES! Maghanap na lang ang mga Dela Paz ng ibang Golf Course at kapag nakilala kayo sa buong mundo sa larangan ng Golf ay maaalala ng mga tao ang injustice na binigay sa inyo ng VGCC. Ang VGCC ay naging extension ng malacanang sa korapsyon.....
Your blog link got forwarded to me by a friend. My prayers are with you and your family.
grabeeee na toooo!!! abuso na!
A friend of mine was at Valley Golf when this all happened and here's what he says is a more accurate account (I know it's accurate because he told us some facts like who actually yelled "Tatandaan ka namin" even before this version came out): http://ateneo. multiply. com/journal/ item/8632
It is so sad that even after some light in the issue..the mob mentality of ganging up on the first person who aired a side rules.
The world truly has gone crazy.
I created a poem that is dedicated to the Filipino people (from all generations and walks of life), especially the dela Paz family.
Link: http://mkdlstudios.blogspot.com/2009/01/oda-sa-sambayanang-pilipino.html
first time to read your blog miss...Thanks to MLQIII.
You and your family will win this. Justice must be serve to your family. You all have our sympathy and prayers.
God our father will always bless those who are oppressed.
I pray that these abusive "public servants" get what they truly deserve ... a man that lives in violence dies in violence.
it is very obvious that some people here just read the blog of bambee in the first page and then right away post their comments....without even reading first previous comments so they will know what has been discussed already. And most got carried away from the blog in the first page...without even having to check the other side of the coin or at least read the previous comments of other users. Get intelligent, people!
Anyway, as I have mentioned in my past comment which I will quote here:
"Nakikita ko na ang ending ng storya nato. You guys will end up in an "out-of-court" settlement....because you know na kayo ang nagpasimuno ng gulo, so to save your face, hindi nyo itutuloy ang kaso dahl baka lumabas ang katotohanan mapahiya lang kayo. So I will understand if you settle just for that, kahit na other comments here are pleading you to fight and not settle it out-of-court.
Kase kung talagang totoo ka, your are telling the truth at alam mong kayo ang nasa tama...ipaglalaban nyo talaga yan sa korte "
I see its happening now. Tsk tsk.
DINO,
I share your sentiments 100%.
Clear case of squeezing what they can out of the situation.
The world has gone crazier really. After weighing all the "facts of the case" during the incident involving the Pangandamans and the De la Pazes, I am no longer sure who I to believe in right now. If we are going to base the findings and the resolution handed out by the Valley Golf Club Committee, it shows that the De la Pazes were not 100% correct with their allegations against the Pangandamans who may not be the real trouble makers. That's why I was thinking did majority of the bloggers erred in immediately finding fault at the DAR secretary and his family without hearing both sides of the case? This is a case of a "he said she said" thing magnified further by the use of media in propagating disturbing images of bloodied ears. We should not be jumping to conclusion right away just because public servants are involved and I hate to say this also Muslims wielding power in a predominantly Catholic nation. I do not want to be misunderstood as a Muslim propagandist. I am a Christian trying to look for the truth and nothing but the truth.
Makabayan96,
Precisely why i posted in this blog and used the name VERUM. I too only want the truth. And hearing one side of the story and passing judgment is definitely not the way to go.
Like I said, I do not know the Pangandamans. For all I know they may be very bad people who do abuse their power. But in this particular case, they obviously did not. They may be the most corrupt politicians in the land, and for that may they burn in hell. But for this incident, they should not be judged by a blog which is not all factual.
let us call for the resignation of the politicians involved. they are in no position to serve as our leaders if they could resort to this kind of unspeakable acts of violence. shame on them!!!
I hope all those bastards die. An all too familiar story we hear time and again.. Rich, corrupt (and usually Muslim) politicians acting like someone died and made them God. Things have to change.
I hope all those bastards die. An all too familiar story we hear time and again.. Rich, corrupt (and usually Muslim) politicians acting like someone died and made them God. Things have to change.
http://foolishblog.wordpress.com/
Before believing everything, guys, try to take a look at the other side of the coin.
Here's a link that says otherwise:
http://www.istorya.net/forums/politics-and-current-events/162101-two-politicians-beat-up-a-56year-old-and-14-year-old-4.html
Now, which is which? How come her father was expelled from the club? geezz..
new statistic are right. literacy in the philippines is fast declining. so many people do not know how to read!
the world had gone crazier.
hahahaha!
new statistic are right. literacy in the philippines is fast declining. so many people do not know how to read!
the world had gone crazier.
hahahaha!
dino quoted " Get intelligent people!...
Wow, ang galing mo naman pre. Parang ang tingin mo sa sarili mo ay napakadunong mo???. At ang mga sinasabihan mo ay mga bobo..... FYI, BS degree holder ako at 2 ang lisensya ko. hindi ako bobo na basta basta na lang maniniwala sa mga sinusulat ni bambee.... At Im 101% sure na hindi din mga bobo ang mga nag post sa blog na ito....
Kung nangiinsulto at nanglalait ka ng kakayahan namin, kayo at sampo ng mga kampon ni pangandemon (john doe, lulu, lizzy at verum)eh kahit ano pa ang gawin nyu na ipaglabanan ang amo mo ay WALANG MANINIWALA SA INYU DAHIL LAHAT KAYO AY SINUNGALING AT MAYAYABANG.
Lumabas sa recent news na inde nag ask ng out of court settlement ang mga dela paz to end this issue... Kabaligtaran ito sa mga naunang report na nagsasabi na nakipag settle ang mga dela paz sa mga pangademons......
People of the philippines at mga kabayan natin sa ibang bansa, wag po tayo na basta basta maniwala sa mga balitang pakawala ng mga pangandemons.. We should be vigilant all the time until we see these bad guys go to BILIBID!!!!!
I hope everything will go in your favor. I know that our justice system isn't the best there is. But this issue is way to horrendous to not get the proper verdict. God bless you and your family.
http://foolishblog.wordpress.com
Bambee de la Paz so young and yet already a great liar just like your dad. We golfers know your dad as an asshole. Nobody respects him. Kulang sa pansin. Masyadong insecure kaya mayabang. Maraming gustong patunayan na hindi naman niya kaya. The best example of a trying hard person. Bambee and Bino huwag ninyong gayahin ang tatay ninyo. Sayang kayo.
You bloggers who are not golfers please be more circumspect and discerning before condemning people just because they are prominent. Please refer to the latest news about the de la Paz father of Bambee has just been expelled from the Valley Golf and Country Club just as Bambee and Bino are also banned from the golf course. You have to know golf etiquettes and rules before you can comment intelligently. Emotions do not count at all except to exacerbate an injustice.
"Its not power play but a kind of hubris."
even if your father "supposedly made the first move", i believe that beating an old man and a young boy to the pulp is the STUPIDEST ACTION TO TAKE. shame on them still!
i hope that your family, especially your young brother, will move on and heal. SHAME ON THOSE GROWN MEN WHO ABUSED YOUR BROTHER. SHAME ON THEM! how would they feel if their young son/brother gets beaten up. i hope that eats their conscience. karma will take its course.
Suppose I'm your father, and I make the first move. I shout at the Mayor. After I shout, 5 bodyguards beat me to death. So the verdict is that the Mayor (and the bodyguards)are not to blame for their actions since I made the first move? Where's the accountability in that? Not even a shred of justice. Those politicians and bodyguards deserve to be jailed. Period.
http://foolishblog.wordpress.com/
sippinslow,
Bino hit the mayor with his Driver, the longest and biggest club of a golfer causing a finger of the mayor to be fractured. Bambee scratched the face of the brother of the mayor. The father hit the mayor with his closed umbrella while shouting invectives such as putang ina mo niloloko mo kami. kilala mo ba ako? member ka ba dito? I suggest read all reports about the case before even commenting. Unfair statements will not help either.
I made a blog myself about this and I hope you don't mind. I just hope you have Justice for your family. I have read both sides and I will push the fight for the De La Paz family. So what if the De La Paz started? Who was the beaten up more the "Pangandemons" or the De La Paz family? Who had a bleeding ear? I may be a 6th grader at Ateneo but even I know that this is too much abuse of power. Remember this "Absolute power, Absolutely corrupts".
I'd like to link your blog to mine :)
I'd like to help spread the word with what happened with your brother and your dad.
bambee, honey, you are such a whiner. i doubt it if half of the story you wrote is even true.
and these people who posted nasty stuff about the other party should be ashamed of themselves. do any of you even know WHAT REALLY HAPPENED? where you even there? have you heard of THERE'S ALWAYS TWO SIDES OF THE STORY?
even the Bible didn't say anything about Muslims being bad-ass, so who are you people to say they should rot in hell?
no wonder, some people get expelled. oh Santa will be pissed!
It is very sad to know that the rot and decay of the Philippine society has spread to the golf course.
That some cheap politicians who claimed to be golfers were arrogantly enough to openly displayed their abusive behavior by beating up helpless people was outrageous enough, but that the the management of Valley Golf would closed their eyes to what really happened and plays politics instead makes me want to throw up!
It is very sad to know that the rot and decay of the Philippine society has spread to the golf course.
That some cheap politicians who claimed to be golfers were arrogantly enough to openly displayed their abusive behavior by beating up helpless people was outrageous enough, but that the management of Valley Golf chose to close their eyes to what really happened and plays politics instead--that makes me want to throw up!
This is a classic example of how feudal this mayor THINKS.The Pangandamans "won" because they only happen to be politicians in a corrupt country! They still have the mindset that they can "control anyone and everything"... my my my, he even wants to control the internet? Even George W. Bush was unable to do that but at least he knew he couldn't.. now this is an idiot who thinks he can? He's a plain stupid asshole and I hope bloggers continue to blog about him so he'll "learn" that NO ONE can control the internet!
alam mo bambee, di ka pa pinapanganak patay na ang hustisya dito sa pinas kaya huwag ka ng umasa pa ok! dasal na lang ang kaya naming gawin para sa inyo.. pero ang ipag sigawan namin na nasa tabi mo kami sumosuporta sa inyo dibale nalang uyyy!!! mamaya kami pa ang balingan ng mga yan! sa desisyon nga lang ng valley golf club halatang nanginginig sa takot na baka sila ang buweltahan ng mga politicians kaya pabor sa kanila ang desisyon na inihayag nila.
Let's say na ang Dela Paz ang nag-umpisa ng argument at nakipag-talo sa mga PanganDEMONs at kahit pa murahin ng mga Dela Paz si Mayor PanganDEMON at Sr. PanganDEMON, at dahil sila ay mga public officials at civil servants the worst they can do is makipag-murahan sila. But beat them up including a 14 yr old boy ay overkill. Kung hindi sila mga public officials at civil servants ay fair game yan. Kung mainitin ang ulo ng mga panganDEMONs ay hindi sila dapat maging civil servants. It doesn't matter kung ano ang sinasabi ng ibang blogs kung sino ang nag-umpisa ang punto dito ay mga public officials sila at dapat maging ehemplo sa mga constituents nila at sa buong Pilipino to uphold extreme patience lalo na sa mga critics at opponents na minumura sila sa harapan.....The best they can do is turn their backs at pumunta sa clubhouse at ireklamo sa Management....Pero hindi, from the highest position they're holding in Government ay bumaba sila sa level ni Dela Paz (alledgedly na nag-umpisa)at nakipagbasagan ng mukha na parang mga sanggano sa kanto....
http://www.iligan.ph/?p=237
how true is this?
According to the Pangandamans version....
"Soon, we also left but we had to leave through the parking exit because the dela Paz family was waiting for us at the clubhouse lobby." I found this really amusing, the Pangandamans after all that they did to the de la paz and with all their high powered guns?
Nakakatawa talaga...madaming hindi naniniwala sa Pangandamans because they really mob the de La Paz's but don't expect for the De Lapaz's to win their case. You will be disappointed. In other words, nagkalutuan na... at madami na ding mga bataan nina Pangandaman na pinipilit na ibangon ang puri nila sa mga blogs...hay naku..
well obviously your experience is one of many, i am sure that there are people who are so scared to even talk about it more so publish incidences as this, it makes me wonder how our nation can have bastards like this in government, yet it explains who we all have become by putting them in power, when all they know is bullying people, it is cowards like this that should be shot!!! not run our country! yet what can i say when we allowed MARCOS to get away with everything...it's a domino effect, we have GOONS in government positions when they should be either in jail or in a garbage dump! sad to say but your father and brother had to be victimized by this COWARD who can only do this for one reason alone, he is ignorant, insecure and most of all inhuman, in fact even monkeys behave better, plus to add to the others who just stood there??? another batch of cowards...we have quite a few of these kind around, this is why our nation is the way it is, no one is willing to put his/her head on the block! it's all about what they can get!! GREED and CORRUPTION is prevalent and it has become endemic!! once again i pray that this man meets someone who will simply pull out a gun and shoot him and his stupid bodyguards who we tax payers pay for by the way!!
i already wrote my comment now publish it!
Yup, not surprise how these politicians act or walk like they are GODs. They are above the law and doesn’t posses character or the integrity to play the game of golf which is supposed to be a gentleman’s game except in PH. I’m really not surprise at all by this incident. I also know that PH golf is closely tied with prostitution for many foreign visitors especially Fil-Ams from USA. I was sick to my stomach discovering this association from my last golf trip in Jan 2008. Local golf pros, politicians and tour operators are in business together and willing sacrifice young pinays for prostitution services of Fil-Ams golfers. It is that time of the year again where local hotels and golf courses will be filled by these sick individuals. I also love the way they make up some charity to benefit from these trips. I attended one last year at Sherwood CC in Cavite where local politicians and PH ambassador attended the event. In the end, it was money making prostitution business using the game of golf. Again, the true meaning of the game of golf has been compromise and violated by corrupt business people and politicians who are all on the take as always. PH will always be a 3rd world country unless the people truly rise up with arms against these corrupt politicians & the elite business people.
Yup, not surprise how these politicians act or walk like they are GODs. They are above the law and doesn’t posses character or the integrity to play the game of golf which is supposed to be a gentleman’s game except in PH. I’m really not surprise at all by this incident. I also know that PH golf is closely tied with prostitution for many foreign visitors especially Fil-Ams from USA. I was sick to my stomach discovering this association from my last golf trip in Jan 2008. Local golf pros, politicians and tour operators are in business together and willing sacrifice young pinays for prostitution services of Fil-Ams golfers. It is that time of the year again where local hotels and golf courses will be filled by these sick individuals. I also love the way they make up some charity to benefit from these trips. I attended one last year at Sherwood CC in Cavite where local politicians and PH ambassador attended the event. In the end, it was money making prostitution business using the game of golf. Again, the true meaning of the game of golf has been compromise and violated by corrupt business people and politicians who are all on the take as always. PH will always be a 3rd world country unless the people truly rise up with arms against these corrupt politicians & the elite business people.
Bambee, please tell the whole world the truth. I challenge the de la Paz family sympathizers to simply talk to any employee, personnel, caddy, marshall, waiter, towel boy,groundskeeper, or security guard of Valley Golf and Country Club to ferret out the truth behind this unfortunate incident. If you get even just one favorable opinion for this de la Paz family, then I will rest my case.
Go ahead talk to people who really witnessed the fiasco. Stop condemning people without knowing the truth.
the story has already been told....some people are just trying to sanitize it snd protect an already tainted reputation.
TRUTH???? does it really exist here??? i think we are so far from the truth that we actually believe in our own lies....)-:
TRUTH??? i don't think we have an idea of of what TRUTH stands for....ABUSE is what we seem to be practicing in this country...in more ways than one
roxanne,
so very true....how soon we forget about the abuses of those in power.
roxanne,
only those with a mature mind would be able to discern the truth from all the spin.
marami na mga pinakawalan na ahente ng kadiliman ngayon whose job is to sanitize....am sure you recognize them.
roxanne,
abuse? it exists and will always exist unless we fight back.
TP,
You've heard of that too huh?
Maybe the golfers in our blog group would like to elaborate.
Thanks for sharing.
please share with us your version of the truth so that we may be enlightened.
Roxanne, Lee;
Truth is truth regardless of your own personal biases and formed opinions as well as your own insecurities. Just as I said please talk to any employee, personnel, caddy, marshall, waiter, umbrella girls, towel boys, or security guards of Valley Golf and Country Club and if you get just one favorable opinion about the de la Paz family, then I rest my case. By the way, do you play golf?
Why do you think no one among the thousands of members of the Valley Golf and Country Club has supported the de la Paz family publicly? If that is not making a statement then I don't know how people can be so naive and be taken for an emotional ride.
Please get real, objective, kind, fair, and humble enough to realize that we can make mistakes in judgement. Most of your blog entries have been so judgemental which is the very antithesis of your very own posturing of being so morally upright without knowing the facts or at least being inquisitive instead of being so opinionated.
For those of you who have hurled threats against the protagonists in this ugly incident, may I say you are no different from the people you condemn. As the Philosophical adage states, "People judge people by their own standards."
alabmw,
thanks for the response.
yes i do play golf and have known it as a gentleman's sport.....but have also seen some world class a-holes too, some of them politicos or relatives of politicos so this really isnt new to me.
will not dispute the fact that the old man dela paz is an a-hole as some of my buddies have said, and had it coming to him for biting off more than he could chew.
but i still ascribe to the point that golfers in general are gentlemen, and mature ones at that....the right thing to do would have been to report the initial incident to valley golf management and ask for intercession, perhaps at that point, things could have been patched up over a cup of coffee, etc, etc, etc.
oh yes, we could always ask the caddies, security, marshalls, umbrella girls, etc about the incident and am sure we will hear na abusado nga yun matanda...like i said, he likely had it coming to him (like a chihuahua biting a doberman)and was too macho to quit when he should have...dont get me wrong about this, the facts do point to who the instigator was.
insecurities? hmmmm....isnt that out of topic?
lets keep this discussion healthy....again thanks for the response.
alabmw,
agree with you....we keep the discussions clean, nobody hurls threats against any of the protagonists.
of what good will it do? kick a guy in balls because he is muslim? totally irrational....hit bambee? what for?
Lee,
I apologize for the unkind statements I made in my commentary. I agree with you 100% that the only proper thing to do as a response to the unruly behaviour of the de la Paz family was to go to the marshalls and the management and complain about it.
I'm so glad that there is a golfer like you who understand the nuances of the game, hence the reasons for what happened after the provocations. Best regards
Let this unfortunate incident serve us a valuable lesson in being humble, kind, gentle, fair, and truthful instead of being adversarial and judgemental. Happy blogging to all.
alabmw,
ok lang, no harm done.
the world is so full of regrets, di ba? Sana ginawa ko ito para walang away. Sana di ko na lang siya sinundot ng payong para di ako nagulpi. Sana pinigilan ko mga bodyguard ko para di lumaki ang gulo at hindi ako napako sa cruz ng mga bloggers....
again, lessons to be learned...we can all learn from this and avoid as best as we can, the mistakes that these poor souls made.
thanks for the response.
Where do you play? Are you a he or a she? You sure feel like a very likeable golfing buddy. I hope you don't mind my asking.
alabmw,
can confidently say that am a "he." he, he, he....
sadly, am not a member of any of the golf clubs, that's too expensive for my poor wallet...but when you have friends, there's always a way to get around.
have tried alabang country club, kagitingan, club intramuros, wack wack, eagle ridge....and oh yes, the now (in)famous valley golf & country club.
just playing the game for the heck of it, not really a regular so di pa naman ako nangitim.....
best regards.
Bloggers All,
May I suggest that before we give an opinion about anything that we don't fully understand, that we first make inquiries, ask questions, educate ourselves, lest we make fools of ourselves with our nonsensical and biased opinions expressing nothing but our very own ignorance and insecurities. "Humility is the first step to greatness."
THE REAL STORY BEHIND THE VALLEY GOLF AND COUNTRY CLUB INCIDENT
By Indz Badelles
Mon 6:28pm
Hi Guys,
Below is the Pangandaman’s official story regarding the incident in Valley Golf. Please feel free to post this in your sites and comment.
Thank you.
Your voices have been heard and now it’s time for us to let everyone know the real story regarding the incident in Valley Golf…..
As a public official with a good record in public service, never have I thought of putting my reputation and our family’s name at stake by engaging in a non-sense brawl with ill-mannered people. Thus, I will not allow anyone to put a stain on our family’s name and assassinate our true character with lies.
An investigation has been initiated and we suggest we let it take its course. The other party has also aired its side. And it will be prudent to just wait for the results of the investigation. We pray and believe that the truth will come out and the issue be put to rest once and for all.
Below is a true and actual narration of the incident that happened last December 26, 2008 at the Valley Golf Club, Antipolo, Rizal.
On December 26, 2008 at around 11:00am, our group composed of Rene Maglanque, Sec. Nasser Panagandaman, Arnel Estacio and Atty. Faisal Abdullah registered to play with the Valley Golf on the first (1st) flight of our group. The second (2nd) flight was composed of Hussein Pangandaman, Adnan Pacasum, Nasser Pangandaman, Jr. and Farah Locsin. We also registered the eight year old son of Hussein named Angelo Pangandaman whom they cannot leave behind the clubhouse as there will be no one to take care of him.
Nasser Pangandaman, Jr. and Farah Locsin were late. They caught up with their flight (2nd) at hole no. 4 accompanied by a marshall and their caddies riding on two golf carts and in the process overtaking the flight of Mr. Delfin de la Paz who reacted by protesting what seems to be an overtaking of flight. Nasser Jr. explained to the elder De la Paz that they will just catch up and join their flight mates at hole no. 4. He further explained that they, who like them, had earlier lined up to play and were pre-registered. With the said explanation, del Paz replied “Okey, kortesiya lang.”
When the 2nd flight of Nasser Jr. already played hole no. 4 which is a par 3 and Nasser Jr. was still outside of the green trying to pitch his ball into the green, the flight of dela Paz hit their shots into the green which almost hit Hussein without shouting “Fore!”. Surprised, though sensing trouble which they deemed to choose to avoid, they allowed the other Dela Paz player to hit his shot so they can peacefully resume and concentrate on their playing. At this point, the caddy of Nasser Jr also took the 8 year old Angelo to stay behind the golf cart to avoid being hit by golf balls coming from the dela Paz players.
On the next hole which is hole no. 5, after the 2nd Pangandaman flight hit their drives into the fairway and before they could hit their second shots, again the dela Paz players hit their drives without warning by shouting “fore”! the 2nd Pangandaman flight puzzled and surprised asked themselves why the flight behind them were doing this to them since they could be hit by their golf balls. One caddy even said, “Ano ba yun?”
When the 2nd flight reached the green of hole no. 5 and after holing out, they joined the 1st flight of Sec. Pangandaman and took their snacks. While doing so, the marshall approached and told Nasser Jr. that the dela Paz’s were complaining why they were 5 of them in their group and why they overtook their flight. Nasser Jr. reiterated to the marshall what he explained to the elder dela Paz, which his knowledge the former already accepted his explanation.
Later, unconvinced even after the marshall relayed to him that there were only four (4) and not five (5) in their flight, and that they were not overtaking as they just had to go back to the clubhouse and later join their flight.
The elder dela Paz came and approached Nasser Jr. already agitated and pointing saying, “Mali ka! There were two carts in your flight and you overtook us!” Nasser Jr. answered, “Akala ko po, Sir, nagkaintindihan na ho tayo kanina”.
Explaining about them not overtaking yet elder dela Paz was not convinced , and at the top of his voice said, “Putang ina ka! Member ka ba dito, ha?, Hindi mo ba ako kilala?”
Nasser Jr. patiently and respectfully explained again to him their side, even using “po” and “Sir” – as a sign of respect without revealing that he is the Mayor of Masiu, Lanao del Sur, and replied, “Bakit po kayo sumisigaw? Hindi po tayo nag-aaway”.
The elder dela Paz reacted, “Ikaw ang naghahanap ng away!”, while pulling his umbrella and thrusted the pointed part and hit the belly of Nasser Jr., while the latter was backing up.
The marshall tried to intervene but the elder Dino dela Paz pressed on which prompted and led Hussein to defend his brother. Dela Paz punched Hussein and they engaged in a fist fight.
Meantine, Nasser Jr., prevented the two (2) younger dela Paz from joining the fight by saying, “Awat na, Awat na”. but they got away from him and went in between their father and Hussein. The two young dela Paz was able to hold Hussein preventing him to reach the elder dela Paz as if “umaawat”. Yet, Bino Lorenzo dela Paz kept punching Hussein in the face and Marie dela Paz from behind kept on scratching his face.
In one instance, the elder Dino dela Paz took hold of a golf club driver and tried to hit Hussein. But, Rene Maglanque was able to get hold of the driver’s shaft and took it away from him.
Later on, Sec. Pangandaman, Rene Maglanque, and another golfer from another flight pacified everybody and asked the dela Paz’s to just leave them to prevent further trouble. Delfin dela Paz called someone in his cellphone and we heard him say, “Punta kayo ditto! May away kami!”
The dela Paz’s left. And, after about ten minutes, our group also discontinued playing and went back to the clubhouse. When Hussein was hurrying up to the bathroom to relieve himself and wash his wounds, the elder Dino dela Paz accosted him and warned him in a threatening voice, “Ikaw mag-ingat ka! Hindi pa tayo tapos! Gagantihan kita!”
Blocking is way to the locker room, Hussein replied, “Hindi ka pa ba umaalis? Sumusobra ka na”, the young Bino Lorenzo went in the middle saying, “Huwag po, fourteen years old lang ako”, and yet having his fist ready to give him a punch.
Hence, Hussein defended himself and the three engaged in another fist fight. Maridel dela Paz came from behind Hussein and started scratching Hussein on the right cheek, the neck, and ear, while pulling and tearing his shirt.
Immediately after, they were prevented from further engaging in a fist fight by those present in the clubhouse, the security and other golfers. But the elder dela Paz still shouted “Gaganti ako. Hindi pa tayo tapos.”
The rest of the dela Paz family arrived, with the eldest son carrying a baseball bat. The wife in “duster” with a bladed weapon in hand, as if ready to assault Hussein. They were likewise prevented by the clubhouse security and other golfers present.
At this point, Sec. Pangandaman told his sons to leave already and the dela Paz’s to stop and leave, so that no more untoward incident would happen. Soon, we also left but we had to leave through the parking exit because the dela Paz family was waiting for us at the clubhouse lobby.
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Which is which? Hmm.
alabmw,
makes sense for you to say that....
but understand this, some bloggers may just be letting loose some of their pent up emotions out of angst / frustration either out of bad experience.
let us allow them to let it all hang out....up to us if we wish to respond, or dignify the comments.
rasterbabble,
thanks for sharing the story....
why didnt this story come out sooner?
hope this results in some intelligent exchange of opinions and not the typical "i told you so" or "who lying now" or "#@!!!*$$$$" type comments. Ok?
Thanks again.
hay naku bambee and dela paz family......para naman kasi kayoing mga family of gangster ehhhhhhhhh...kayo naman ang nanguna at nag provoke tapos nag papa awa kayo.anubayan......kayo pa ang agrabyado ehhhmaliwanag naman sa kwento mo na kayo ay pala away talaga..sa laki ng katawan ng kapatid mo eh..at sya pa nga ang nasunutok ng payong ...tama lang sa inyo ang ganyan....patalsikin sa club kasi wala sa lugar ng sport ang kagaya nyo...........
Kung wala tayong alam sa isang bagay, magtanong muna tayo bago magsalita ng laban sa kaninuman.
angst, frustations, or bad experiences and if I may add personal insecurities do not give us a license to villify other people just as the de la Paz supporters have done. Their statements have already done harm to people and may have formed opinions of many others to believe their lies.
Nobody has the right to spread lies even in the internet.
To kim, alabmw, meldrin
Guys alam nyu kahit paiba ibahin nyu pa ang pangalan nyu dito sa blog at kahit pa iba iba pa ang kwento ninyo ay WALANG MANINIWALA SA INYU. GET LOST YOU SONS OF PANGANDEMONS AND GO TO HELL....hmmmmm wag sa hell baka sabihin nyu too unfair... sige na nga sa iraq na lang or sa gaza..... mas bagay lahat kayo dun ^_^
I still believe that bambee is telling the truth. more power to dela paz
hmmm thats the kind of people who are likes the Dela Paz.... bully pero pag nasaktan at nakahanap ng katapat, galit na galit ayaw papatalo.
Abu, read your comments again...you are not making any sense...you are not even giving an intelligent opinion...wala kang sinabi kundi puro galit at sama ng loob. Nonsense ka kausap. Hindi nagiisip bago magsalita. Ikaw yung tipong kulang sa pansin at dapat hindi pinapansin.
Why abu? Truth hurts indeed huh? Sige just cover your eyes, ears, mouth. Avoid the truth because it hurts you! Ay hindi pala ang mouth kse yan lang ang alam mo magsisigaw sa galit.
Abu,
Who you? Lowlife?
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