So, I just had the worst day of my life.
At around 1:30 PM today, at Valley Golf and Country Club, Antipolo City, Mayor Nasser Pangandaman, Jr., Mayor of Masiu City, Lanao del Sur, his father, Secretary Nasser Pangandaman of the Department of Agrarian Reform, and company, beat my defenseless 56-year-old dad and my 14-year-old brother to a pulp because of some stupid misunderstanding on the golf course.
This is a golf course. I have been a golfer all my life, and I have never seen anything like this. NOTHING. This is hard to comprehend. And it happened to my own father and my own brother too. Right in front of my eyes.
My brother and I were playing golf at the South Course of Valley. We were on the 3rd hole, and we see two golf carts going past us, overtaking our flight, and setting up to tee off on the next hole. My dad goes up to them and asks them why they would do that, why they would overtake us without even asking for our permission. Golf etiquette 101. One of the guys says that they're with the flight in front of us. (So what? That doesn't give them the right to just pass us WITHOUT asking.) So, we go to the 5th hole. The flight behind us catches up with us, and asks us what caused the hold up. We said that this flight just slipped in front of our flight. So we complained to the marshall. We play the 5th hole and walk towards the next hole, where there is a teehouse, and both the flights in front of us were there, talking with the marshall. The mayor of Masiu City, Lanao del Sur talks with my dad. Things get heated up. Voices were raised. But never, in my wildest dreams, did I ever imagine that someone would pull out a punch. Apparently not. He attacks my father. His flightmates, maybe 2 or 3 of them, rush to his aid and beat up my father. My 56-year-old father. My younger brother and I could not just watch. We rushed to break the fight. My younger brother pleads to the mayor to please stop it. To not hurt my dad. To just stop. His words still ring through my head..."Sorry na po, sorry na po...tama na...tama na po..." With his hands in front of his chest in a praying position. PLEADING. The mayor socks him in the face. My brother defended himself. My dad is still on the ground getting clobbered. My brother is the same way. I try to stop the fight, but all I can do is stop one person. There were 4 or 5 of them attacking now.
Someone breaks up the fight. I thought it was all over. The mayor shouts to his caddy: "Hindi nila kami kilala! Sabihin mo nga sa kanila kung sino ako!" And believe me, I had no idea who this person was. But now I know. He's the person who, with 4 other men, beat up my 56-year-old father and my 14-year-old brother. He's the person who sacks a pleading 14-year-old kid in the face. He's a person who, I am sure, is gonna rot in hell.
I lash out, but my dad held me back. I was screaming my lungs out, shouting to this mayor, telling him about what he had done. I said: "Nakakahiya kayo. Singkwenta'y sais anyos ang tatay ko. And kapatid ko kakatorse anyos. Anong ilalaban nila sayo?"
The mayor looks at my brother, point to his face, and says, "Tatandaan kita!" And he tells me that my brother has a bad attitude and that I need to watch him. WHAT THE HELL?! So, my brother's bad for defending his father?!
We leave. We walk to the clubhouse to file a complaint. My brother asks for a doctor. My dad could barely walk. Their group comes to the clubhouse, sees my brother. Once again my brother pleads, says sorry, and is crying. He was CRYING, for crissakes. But no. The relentless mayor still punches him in the face, and then sees my dad and goes after my dad again. Him and his friend pull my dad to the ground, pulls at his feet, and steps on him like he's dirt. I run to him and try to hold him back, holding him back by his shirt, while this other guy and this girl tries to stop me. She tells me to just stop it. I scream in her face "they're beating my father up and you want me to stop?!" I pull at his shirt--I don't let go. All I can see was my dad being trampled on. I didn't even see my brother getting beat up.
People pull them away. I get my dad, and I saw my brother. His right ear was bleeding. I freaked out. I told the receptionists to bring my brother to the clinic. I pull my dad away. People were separating us.
My mom and my older brother come. I tell her Bino's right ear is bleeding. They both look like they could kill. My dad holds my brother off, I hold off my mom. When I finally got my mom under control, my older brother gets away and I hold him off. Two of the mayor's bodyguards pull out guns. I embraced my brother from the back, just holding him back, crying. The receptionists came to us, crying, hugging me, my dad, and my mom, whispering to us to just leave. "Maam, umalis na po kayo, may mga baril sila...Maam...umalis na po kayo please..."
I am pretty sure the Secretary of DAR did not take part in the fight, but he just watched all this happen. He watched two of his sons, as we figured out, the other guy was his son, too, beat up my father and my 14-year-old brother. He didn't do anything to stop it. And this person is what now? A cabinet member. A politician.
Sounds like something out of a movie, doesn't it? But this is what happened. TODAY. The day after Christmas. To my family. And all I ask for is JUSTICE. The people at Valley Golf did not seem to want to help us. None of the security guards even tried to stop the fight. Right in the clubhouse. I came back after the fight was over and talked to the receptionists. They say they did not see anything. The general manager of Valley Golf would not give us the names of the men who made my brother's ear bleed. It took him an hour. Maybe even more than that. He seemed to not want to help us. Because, we were against the SECRETARY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRARIAN REFORM and the MAYOR OF MASIU CITY, LANAO DEL SUR. They were all scared.
The world has gone crazy. Two politicians beat up a defenseless 56-year-old father and his 14-year-old son. At a golf course. I swear to God, I thought golfers were decent people. You would think politicians were decent people. I guess not. I guess they gang up on 56-year-old men and beat up pleading 14-year-old kids.
Please pray for my dad, my brother and for my whole family. Please pray that we get JUSTICE. Oh God, please, give these people what they deserve.
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«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1200 of 1594 Newer› Newest»this people need to resign,eh kaso,ang philippine politics ay lagi ang nasa puwesto ang kinakampihan ng batas..dito sa america, if this happen in public ay tapos na ang career mo as a politiko...pero it happen in pinas, which they easily deny, and denying is always been their wapon in any wrong doing involve to them..
When facing a politician in a court expect the dirties tactics to be done in favor of the politician I hope that somebody out there "Left or Right" can make the politician realize what is the feeling of being beatup!!!
I was quite shocked when I first read about his incident in the news. I thought this only happens in the movies!
As a mayor, or even a high ranking govenment official, one should exercise "extreme discretion" in anything they do, specially in public places. "Extreme tolerance" is also a necessary trait since one will be subject to criticisms as a public figure.
The mayor's behaviour and display of arrogance of power is "totally unacceptable" as a public official, no matter what his alibi is, even if the other party started it (this is..."if")! He doesn't deserve to be in government service!
If this mayor can do it out of his turf with "guns & goons" in Valley Golf, supposedly a safe & peaceful place for "people who can afford to play golf", imagine what he can do to ordinary people in his town anytime someone goes against him?
As for the high ranking Cabinet Secretary, he is also accountable since he committed the "sin of omission"...he just allowed a public crime be committed in his presence without doing anything? If he can't even control his own son, how can you expect him to effectively perform his functions managing a large bureacracy like the DAR?
My advice, file the complaint ASAP! Let the law and justice take it's course. You have a strong case! Law and Justice is on your side!
I have been in the government service for decades now. People like these should not even be allowed in the government service! Ther're a disgrace to good and law-abiding public servants like us.
I was quite shocked when I first read about his incident in the news. I thought this only happens in the movies!
As a mayor, or even a high ranking govenment official, one should exercise "extreme discretion" in anything they do, specially in public places. "Extreme tolerance" is also a necessary trait since one will be subject to criticisms as a public figure.
The mayor's behaviour and display of arrogance of power is "totally unacceptable" as a public official, no matter what his alibi is, even if the other party started it (this is..."if")! He doesn't deserve to be in government service!
If this mayor can do it out of his turf with "guns & goons" in Valley Golf, supposedly a safe & peaceful place for "people who can afford to play golf", imagine what he can do to ordinary people in his town anytime someone goes against him?
As for the high ranking Cabinet Secretary, he is also accountable since he committed the "sin of omission"...he just allowed a public crime be committed in his presence without doing anything? If he can't even control his own son, how can you expect him to effectively perform his functions managing a large bureacracy like the DAR?
My advice, file the complaint ASAP! Let the law and justice take it's course. You have a strong case! Law and Justice is on your side!
I have been in the government service for decades now. People like these should not even be allowed in the government service! Ther're a disgrace to good and law-abiding public servants like us.
nakuuu, have you checked Bai a labi's latest comments? yuck. parang utak P siya, utak panga n demon este pangandemon este pangandaman. yuck! get out of here Bai a labi.
I agree with some blogers here, karma has begun to the Pangandamans with this blog. Com'on let's keep blogging about the P's kasama na rin ang mga pulitikung ala Mayor Mauler and Sec. Pangandaman. Like father like son nga. kala ko sabi-sabi lang etoc, pero here is one proof of like father like son - ang mga Pangandamans... ooooooh, sounds and looks familira and "ike father, like sons" you know them of course! sila ang nasa KKK = kataas-taasan, kaputikan at ka"kurap"an!
nakuuu, have you checked Bai a labi's latest comments? yuck. parang utak P siya, utak panga n demon este pangandemon este pangandaman. yuck! get out of here Bai a labi.
I agree with some blogers here, karma has begun to the Pangandamans with this blog. Com'on let's keep blogging about the P's kasama na rin ang mga pulitikung ala Mayor Mauler and Sec. Pangandaman. Like father like son nga. kala ko sabi-sabi lang etoc, pero here is one proof of like father like son - ang mga Pangandamans... ooooooh, sounds and looks familira and "ike father, like sons" you know them of course! sila ang nasa KKK = kataas-taasan, kaputikan at ka"kurap"an!
aiiii, meron mga typo error paa ako sa previous comment ko... i mean bloggers, "like father, like son" , meron akong dagdag di ba? meron kaparehong, "like father,like sonS" ... lam niyo na yun, sila ang involved sa NBN ZTE sa gold din nangyari, sila ang nagtutulak ng CHA CHA at marami pang iba, "I'm sorry" ehe!
nakuu "I am sorry" dapat (sounds family di ba?.... "I am sorry"). di ba ninyo napapansin? ang mga usapang ka"kurap"an at ka"hayup"an at ka"abusu"han eh sa GOLF o sa green nangyayari? lam ko na yan matagal na, kasi meron reliable source sa govt., sabi, sa golf ang mga big deals na usapan ... gaya ng NBN ZTE deal . o, di ba?
I just read your blog and almost cried out of anger. Government officials should serve the people, not beat them up and almost kill them! I pray that your family will not give up the fight! Sana may mag-organize ng rally..
If Sec. Pangandaman does not step down, he should be fired!!! Pero knowing Gloria, wala na naman mangyayari. Haaayyyyy!!!!!
Sana makarating ito and other related articles sa mga golf clubs and associations around the world. Sikat ang mga honorable Pangandamans! Kagalang-galang na public servants! Dapat talaga kayong tingalain at tularan ng mga anak at apo ninyo!
Bambee,
In my own little way, what I just did was to spread what happened sa inyo sa lahat ng contacts ko.
May the whole world know how honorable these politicians are. Talagang thieves and liars of the same kind flock together.
Kelan kaya sila magsasabi ng "I... am... sorry..." sabay sapok ulit sa mukha ng kapatid mong bata?
Bambee,
In my own little way, what I just did was to spread what happened sa inyo sa lahat ng contacts ko.
May the whole world know how honorable these politicians are. Talagang thieves and liars of the same kind flock together.
Kelan kaya sila magsasabi ng "I... am... sorry..." sabay sapok ulit sa mukha ng kapatid mong bata?
Thats why I've trying to avoid reading news from Pinas eh, ganitong klase ang mababasa mo.
Watched some videos from Youtube about this incident. Mukha naman talaga mangdarambog ang mag-ama na yan!
Napakadumi talaga ng politics sa atin. I remember in Makati City, when my mom worked as one of the City councilor staff, election week busy na kami sa pag-abot ng envelope with 500Php sa mga voters. I had two terms as SK official and I got offered to run as City councilor pero inayawan ko dahil maraming kapalit. This was mid-90's pa ah. Ewan ko na lang ngayon. That's why I left Pinas..
Pwede ba tayong mag raise ng fund para mapa-hunt itong mag-ama na ito!
Pasensya na Bambi, nakaka-highblood lang talaga itong nagyari sa family mo..
My prayers and sympathy to you and your family..
Do not let fear stop you in your quest for justice. People like him need to be taught a lesson.
dito masusubukan ang bangis ng DILG...
dito masusubukan ang Mahal na Pangulo...
Pero wag na kayong umasa pa...
But you made a right decision Bambi ti bring it out thru internet...
kung powerful sila kasi nasa government sila...ewan ko lang may panama sila sa kakayanan ng internet...
ang dami ng nagawa ng internet sa mundo and shown how powerful it is...
sorry na lang sa mga walang kwentang government officials na yan!
sa palagay ko sila ang luluhod na parang nagdadasal at hihingi ng SORRY,MAKIKIUSAP at MAGSUSUMAMO na tigilan na ang pagbaBLOG.
haay, naku. whatever the pangandamans did to your family is truly gawi of the M of the Lanao area. C'mon, ask any peace-loving Christian of the Lanao area what these M do, and I can assure you they will describe a scenario similar to what happened to you and your family. To correct many of you, it has little to do with their being politicians. Rather, a lot to do with their being M. They rely on number and ammo to muster courage. Come to the Lanao area, and you will see that what they did is not as uncommon as you might think.
"you brought it out thru internet" pala
There's an online petition in the works right now for the ouster of the two Pangandaman's from their current govt positions. Here's the link:
http://angkapatiranparty.org/index.php?id=26&no_cache=1&tx_fepetition_pi1[action]=sigView&tx_fepetition_pi1[uid]=13&tx_fepetition_pi1[start]=2
can't wait to see those guys stripped off of their public posts and eventually rot in jail. mayor ng what town??? sorry, never heard... tapos kung umasta parang mga diyos... public officials forget that they are there because of the people's votes and trusts... ooooppps! my mistake. they can buy the votes of the people nga pala.. and that's one of the reasons why a lot of these politicians think they're above the law.
hope and pray that you and your family will get through this ordeal safe and with justice served accordingly. get with those tulfo brothers and let's just see what will happen to those goons. take extra care because you guys are dealing with professional thugs.
people here in san diego are following this story closely. keep up the good fight... hopefully this will serve as an example to power trip politicians in our country.
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There's an online petition in the works right now for the ouster of the two Pangandaman's from their current govt positions. Here's the link:
REY,
READ MATTHEWS 24: 1-14, At 10 it says " And then many will be offended, will betray one another and HATE EVEN CURSE ONE ANOTHER".
and at 12 to 13 it says, "And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold".
"But he who endures to the end will be saved".AMEN
Ben Serrano,
I'm sorry but am not a "bible person", can you translate the bible passages to "english" for me please? Thanks!
You can start by blaming the Movie Makers - for making movies that glorify the criminals... the political abusive character with the culture of violence. Then you can also start blaming the Movie Maker financers for making such movies become a reality.
The movies dating back from the late 60's up to the late 90's in Pinoy cinema are contributory to what the modern Pinoy politicians in the suburbs are.
Power hungry, Ego centric, Concieted, abusive and Neurotic for having an illusion of grandeur.
"Kilala niyo ba ako?" is their most used line... a hint about their insecured and perverted psyche.
This is what happens when we are exporting our good citizens out of our country and making them work as slaves in other countries.
The rotten ones rule the country.
No offense to those who are legitimately good natured... but - sadly, this country needs to be overhauled.
The people should fire these undesirable public servants. Of course we can fire them... we were the ones who hired them in the first place by virtue of the ballot.
Bad things happen when Good people do nothing.
here's the latest headline:
DAR chief: Dela Pazes had baseball bats and bladed weapons.
what a lame freakin' excuse... since when did these kind of weapons being a match to guns on goons. this older pangdam... (sorry can't spell their ugly names) and his son should resign and just rot in jail along with their pets, or i should say, pests.
sorry, just venting off after reading the news clips... nakakahiya talaga ang maraming politiko sa pinas... kaya hindi ito umunlad-unlad ay dahil sa mga ganyang tao na naka upo sa trono ng kubeta nila. you guys stink!!!!
Ikalat sa emails ang ginawa nilang kahayupan at makikita ninyo mawawasak ang reputasyon ng mga dimonyong yan.
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Ben Serrano,
I'm sorry but am not a "bible person", can you translate the bible passages to "english" for me please? Thanks!
REY,
It's written in English can't you understand? Do you want me to translate in Hebrew?
It's hatred and pride that makes this World crazy and crazier even.
The World has gone crazy. No, its not, its people who sow hatred that makes this World crazy.
Personally, I condemn the acts of the Pangandamans on the other hand I pity the souls of those who unknowingly but slowly becoming like them.
The reason why the Pangandamans did it because they are not only drunk with powers they forget the Golden Rule.
Likewise, the Dela Pazes have their own shortcomings too.. Am sorry to say this.
For all of us have fallen short in the Kingdom of God which says we have to love our enemies!
Difficult isn't it? That's why its really difficult to understand the words of God.It's opposite to man's vanity and pride.
And I remember the parable of Mary Magdalene when she was stoned by hordes of people in her time because she was a terrible sinner.
But what Jesus Christ tell the stoning public "Let those who are not sinners cast the first stone against this woman"
Ashamed, the people stopped stoning Mary Magdalaene.
I don't know what your surname is but its better you reveal yourself for fairness..I am not against you, I just wanted to share with you the Bible, brother!May peace reign in our hearts always..
I love you brother! Peace be with you!
Even if all 81-M Filipinos will sign this petition and the two Pangandamans will not resign and Madam Arroyo will not ask the DAR's Secretary's resignation. We can't do anything.
All we can do is, 2010 national elections is near, we must bond ourselves together with no partisan politics and help empower, educate and inform our brother Filipinos particularly in the countryside the importance of selecting good, God-fearing leaders.
Now, don't get me wrong Rey, because I am also for the petition, what we really need here is all of us must agree and in one voice will work together for total political reforms in this country!
And this is not only for Rey but to all those bloggers down here, I all agree with you guys, but its about time that we must unite together for CHANGE of our beloved Philippines!
PEACE BE WITH YOU and GOD BLESS the Philippines!
golf IS a gentleman's game, not a game enjoyed by men who think they own the world.
i was a member of the junior golf 2 years ago. NEVER i have heard of such incident like that in my years of playing golf.
i got to enjoy 18 holes with retired general alex aguirre last friday. i do admire him for being such a gentleman in the fairway
mac
bai a labi
buti pa libre mo kami sa kinita mo galing sa bulsa ng mga pangandaman bwehehehehehehe
Ben Serrano,
First, this isn't about you and me. This is about injustice done against the De la Pazes by the Pangandamans. So, this will be the last time that am going to reply to your comments.
Second, I am not the one who started the online petition, I only posted the link here.
Third, when I say "translate in english" I mean write it in a more simple form that can be understood by common person like me.
Fourth, you said "we must unite together for CHANGE of our beloved Philippines!" and "what we really need here is all of us must agree and in one voice will work together for total political reforms in this country!", do you have other suggestions what actions we can take in unity "for CHANGE of our beloved Philippines" and what can we "work together for total political reforms in this country"?
I don't really know what you're up to here, or which side are you really. It seems your just very eager to deliver your "sermon". There are only 2 sides to take here, the De la Pazes and the Pangandamans, and I'm with the former. How about you? And please don't tell me about selecting good leaders come election time, we all know what happens during elections, cheating, vote buying etc.
BTW, are you Ben Serrano the journalist?
Justice to the Da la Paz family!
bambee, i wish to post a link in my multiply page so fellow up classmates and friends would get to read this too
thanks,
mac
My group and I support you and your family. Re-wrote your post on my blog, http://lesliebocobo.blogspot.com/
To Bambee and the de la Paz family,
You will be blessed because of the gross injustice you have suffered from.
And to those who have inflicted this severe pain on your family, they cannot escape the Biblical law: He who sows the wind, reaps the whirlwind.
Unless they make amends with your family and with God, they will reap the whirlwind... a worse fate a hundredfold.
Have faith.
Dok Raffy
To Bambee and the de la Paz family,
You will be blessed because of the gross injustice you have suffered from.
And to those who have inflicted this severe pain on your family, they cannot escape the Biblical law: He who sows the wind, reaps the whirlwind.
Unless they make amends with your family and with God, they will reap the whirlwind... a worse fate a hundredfold.
Have faith.
Dok Raffy
http://www.pinoygolfer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5801&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=pangandaman&start=180
To everyone,
Bambi's story is NOT what i heard!!! That's her side of the story. ANOTHER STORY SAYS THAT IT WAS YOUR FLIGHT THAT CUT-IN COZ YOU GUYS WERE LATE. So who's telling the truth??? The mayor daw acted in self-defense coz I heard young Bino started it and provoked the mayor and his group.
Rumor has it that people at the Valley Golf (members and employees alike) dislike your family, esp. your dad! You guys throw your weight around at the golf club as if it belongs solely to yourselves. Bino, madaming nagsasabi MAYABANG ka din!
NOT that i condone what the mayor did, but you had it coming, as what many at the club say, thats why people at the club dont feel any sympathy for what happened.....it was an accident waiting to happen.
Just to get ahead of you - I do NOT know the Pangandamans. I wrote this so that everyone out there knows the other side of the story.
Bambi, naunahan mo lang sila sa cyberspace thats why so many are sympathetic to you. Perhaps if they go to Valley Golf and ask around about your reputation and what REALLY happened, you might end up having your relatives and friends as your only sympathizers.
Rey,
There is nothing to argue about on what I stand for. Clearly I have stated over and over again that I condemn any terrorist acts.
I don't also sermon for the sake of sermoning like you I am only sharing my thoughts.
On whether you believe me or not, I don't care much more have any problem about it.
There is no law, by the way banning in expressing ones' thought. It is even guaranteed by the constitution That no law shall be abridging the right to self expression.
On cheating, vote-buying and electoral frauds here in the Philippines it happened because people like you don't give a damn to stop it!
On whether one will accept that challenge for Change, is not my problem anymore!
What is important to me is that I am doing my share to make this World a better place to live not only for me but for my kids and the future generations!
What i mean here buddy, is that, all these blogs won't mean nothing unless we initiate total political reforms!
Believe me, tis incident will happened over and over again if we will not address the root cause to all of these.
I am from Mindanao and the experience of Dela Pazes are peanuts compared to many of the experiences of abuses of poor people inflicted unto them by abusive and unrepenting Pinoy politicians and their cohorts!
The injustices experienced by poor people like is beyond compare!
I am for the good side and lasting solution for lasting peace and progress of this country.
Hatred, vanity and pride won't solve it!
Christians and Muslims are the same because there are also Christians oppressing Christians, killing even softly.
To me, People are people, sands are sands and water are water, Paradise is right here in our brains and how we feel it including hell.
May Peace always reign in our hearts my friend, Happy New year!
hi...your father and brother's story has travelled and reached me prior to reading your blog (which was sent to me by a friend). am jill sze graduate of dlsu and was once a student activitist. am really sorry to hear your sad story. don't let this pass. i don't want to be bystander. will send this to as many people as i know. they have hurt you and your family. news travel fast and they can't stop it.
ganyan talaga karamihan sa mga politicians, super yabang. kala ko kung sino na sila d2 sa lipunan.they dont deserve to be there..
i will pray for ur family!
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To everyone,
Bambi's story is NOT what i heard!!! That's her side of the story. ANOTHER STORY SAYS THAT IT WAS YOUR FLIGHT THAT CUT-IN COZ YOU GUYS WERE LATE. So who's telling the truth??? The mayor daw acted in self-defense coz I heard young Bino started it and provoked the mayor and his group.
Rumor has it that people at the Valley Golf (members and employees alike) dislike your family, esp. your dad! You guys throw your weight around at the golf club as if it belongs solely to yourselves. Bino, madaming nagsasabi MAYABANG ka din!
NOT that i condone what the mayor did, but you had it coming, as what many at the club say, thats why people at the club dont feel any sympathy for what happened.....it was an accident waiting to happen.
Just to get ahead of you - I do NOT know the Pangandamans. I wrote this so that everyone out there knows the other side of the story.
Bambi, naunahan mo lang sila sa cyberspace thats why so many are sympathetic to you. Perhaps if they go to Valley Golf and ask around about your reputation and what REALLY happened, you might end up having your relatives and friends as your only sympathizers.
ELPAKO,
Granting that what you write here are true and that the Dela Pazes are mayabang (arrogant) as what you have been saying.
Does this give the right to anyone much more the Pangandamans to maul them?
Now don't get me wrong I am just asking...
Hi bambee!
This vile politicians are maybe feeling the heat already,that's why they are asking the bloggers to stop their vitriol.Sa paraan na lamang ng blogs tayo magsalita dahil hindi nila ito mapapatahimik at hindi nila ito masusupil.
My prayers are with you.Be brave girl!My family and friends here in Malaysia are praying for you.
first of all, i haven't met any of the pangandamans involved in this incident.
second, i am basing my accusations on the two blogs - the dela paz's and the pangandaman's.
thirdly, just because it was bambee who posted first about the incident doesn't mean she's right or she's telling the truth. and just because the mayor did not write his own blog doesn't mean he's guilty.
lastly, this is luzon..so what do you expect -- most are anti-muslims, anti-mindanaoans, ignorant and close-minded when it comes to people from mindanao and people who are muslims.
check this out okay?
http://hunnyjodipattycakes.blogspot.com/2008/12/other-side-of-story.html
http://www.pinoygolfer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5801&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=pangandaman&start=180
be rational.
WATCH OUT, WATCH OUT...
the web of lies and deceit is starting to spin.
http://www.pinoygolfer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5801&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=pangandaman
and don't forget may mga kampon din ang mga Satanas na 'to in the guise of "concern(ed)" people kuno.
yeah you can clearly see the intentions of these maggots too.
CAREFUL.....
Bai a Labi i don't know if you are lying or you are simply bobo.
Well for one, the claim that was made my these minority and obviously corrupt individuals are......
sigh....you would never understand anyway so why the heck am I explaining this simple stuff to you.
Mga walang kaluluwa.
May araw ng paniningil sa mga hayup na yan. Hell will not wait. Justice will be served here on earth.
http://www.philippinerevolution.net/
what happened now why silent? the other side of the story is out now....what can you say????
sino nag nagsasabi ng totoo???? Bakit parang sa blog dito madami kulang at hindi kunpleto???
bullies meet bullies? hmmm...
mabuhay ka, james.
may justice be indeed served here on earth. malapit na.
dino, tumahimik ka at puntahan mo na yung amo mo sa kusina kanina ka pa hinahanap.
Hi there, I was deeply moved by your story. I'm just another stranger to you, but please accept my prayers for justice for your family, and their safety as well.
As for her dad having a bad reputation in Valley, it's totally true...
When I talked to my mates over in Valley Golf about the incident, they were all "oh, oh well, that guy's a major arse..."
How everyone here just jumped on the bandwagon is a prime example of the mob mentality that prevails in your country.
Heck it's the only way that seems to work for you guys, having ousted two presidents that way...
eto basahin nyo totoong nangyari...a post from a certain "rge" from pinoygolfers.com forum:
http://www.pinoygolfer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5801&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=pangandaman&start=180
now youve read both sides...sino sa tingin nyo nagsasabi ng totoo?
sa tingin ko, what happened was the inevitable consequence when golf bullies meet bullies....kumbaga nakahanap ng katapat! tsk tsk tsk.
now I wonder kung ilan ang nakakaaway ng mga Dela Paz sa mga golf clubs.
now tell the truth, sino sa dalawang party ang nagbitaw ng salitang ""Member ka ba dito, Kilala mo ba ako?!" Sino sa kanila ang maayos nakikipag-usap at sino naman ang arrogante na sumisigaw-sigaw?? Hmmm...
About the 14-year-old kid issue...eh paano kung yung 14-year old eh mas malakai at mas matangkad sayo at matapang na makikipag-away sayo? Pabayaan mo lang ba sya bugbugin ka dahil 14-year-old sya? It doesnt mean na 14-yr-old eh bata at walang laban. Alam kong mali nga yun at mga anti-child abuse law tayo....pero papaano mo malalaman kung ang sumusugod sayo na mas malaki sayo eh 14-year-old palang? Aber? Isip isip...
Sa totoo lang when I first read about the incident in the blog here, galit na galit ako sa mga Pangandaman gusto ko murahin taena nila! But now when I saw the other side of the coin...it made me think! Dapat wag maniwala agad sa nababasa...alamin muna ang BUONG STORYA.
dino,
magaling kang artista bwahahahahahah
magkano binayad sayo ng pangandaman?
teka...sino sa mga pangandaman ang karelasyon mo hahahahahaha
ilignanon bakit wala kang masabi kungdi "tumahimik ka blah blah blah" nonsense? Wala kang ma-share dito na totoo? Hanggang ganyan lang ang alam mong sabihin? Truth hurts ba, bai ha? hehehe ganyan talaga :)
Iliganon ba gyud ka animala ka asa man ka sa Iligan pangitaon taka kung isog ka...ako taga-Iligan pangitaa sa Zinc, Aruma Cafe, Iliganon, Batc naa ra ko dira tambay bai duuli lang ko tan-awon ta unsa ka kaisog.
Masasabi ko lang...hwag muna mag-comment, hwag muna makialam kung hindi naman alam ang buong storya.
Iliganon ka diay ha....sige kung may alam ka sa golf laro tayo sa tipanoy o gusto nino sa CDO pa. Hinay hinay lang dira bai :)
ang problema sa ibang nag-cocomment dito....walang masabi kundi "magaling kang artista blah blah blah"....halatang walang masabi tungkol sa issue. Halatang nakikisawsaw lang.
Stick with the issue...ano masasabi nyo sa issue....reading both sides of the story. Kung matalino kayo, marunong kayo mag-balance. Be intelligent...hwag puro comment na walang kwenta.
well the Pangandamans are right on track with their damage control and demolition job, i should say. napagaling gumawa.
ginamit na ni GMA yan kaya halatang-halata.
he who has the (stolen)gold makes the rule indeed here in poor sick Pilipinas.
Keep the Faith though
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" MLK
If we allow this kinds of injustices to some of our people; we might as well surrender all our rights. Bastos na bastos na ang tingin saatin nang buong mundo.
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" MLK
If we allow this kinds of injustices to some of our people; we might as well surrender all our rights. Bastos na bastos na ang tingin saatin nang buong mundo.
dino, dino, dino...
maranao ka siguro sa Iligan kaya ang tapang mo magsasalita ng ganyan.
ikaw ang maghinay-hinay bai kay hapit na sugdan ang ethnic cleansing diha sa Iligan unahon mo mga abusado nga moklo.
kamo pay wala sa lugar pirmi, kamo pay isog. hapit na mahurot pasensya namo mga Christian sa inyo animala mo hulat lang mo.
now back with the issue......
your account of the incident reads a lot worse than what has been printed in the papers. I can feel nothing but sympathy for you and your family.
I am a lawyer i understand perfectly what you are going through. purge all hatred from your heart and stick to your narration of the facts principles. do not let your meotions get the best of you.
based on your testimony and that of your father and brother (who cares about those cowards at valley golf) it seems that you have an open and shut case. The city prosecutor of antipolo, where i assume your case will be filed, is quite honest; there shouldn't be a problem winning there. A classmate of mine is also a judge there in antipolo and he's ok also.
as for your tormentors, its "hello muntinlupa for you!"
I noticed that some people here and other blogs have posted the so called "Real Story" and actually have changed their minds. Very typical of a lot of people I know. My question is, is this really the "Real Story"? Can anyone here really proved something that this was the truth. You changed your mind like you changed your clothes. Let's get real here. Ang dali ninyong mabola pag nakabasa kayo ng magandang pagkakasulat.
@iliganon,
Sabi ko naman sayo eh stick with the issue bai...dami mo sinabi puro naman kayabangan puro mali naman.
First off...the issue is not about Ethnic or Religion. Its about mauling or brawling incident which involve a Govt official and a 14-year-old kid. STICK TO THE ISSUE!
Second...Christiano ako at madami narin ako nakaaway na mayayabang Muslim sa Mindanao. Graduate ako HS sa LSA Iligan at sa Redemptorist or sa St. Michael Cathedral ako nagsisimba....kaya MALI PO KAYO SIR naku po yan ang hirap sayo eh hehe
Okay stick to the issue nalang po pra hindi ka masyado mapahiya.
May the TRUTH prevail! Ang mga arrogante at bully...kung sino man yun sa dalawang parties involve...you get what you deserve. Kung ang Pangandaman man, sana makulong sila at matanggal sa pwesto at mapatay ng mga MILF....kung ang mga Dela Paz man, ayan nakahanap kayo ng katapat kaya hinay hinay lang wag masyado matapang.
Live Jesus always in our hearts! Forever!
:)
@dino: there's something sa pananalita mo which do not connect properly and to be honest I strongly do not believe Christian ka, but back with the ra-ta-tat anyway.
First off....in the end it will boil to one thing and one common thing: a Christian father & son being beaten up by Muslim government officials AND their bodyguards. whatever defense and violent objections you will have against this statement, eto yung makikita clearly and plainly at the bottom and God forbid this will not fan any embers of hatred we feel against your corrupt and abusive brothers and sisters, else you would all go back to the mountains of Lanao where you will again feel the wrath of Christians who are fed up with your shenanigans(research The 70s, kiddo)
Secondly, why give the Pangandamans to the MILF at ipapatay kung sila nga ang may sala? are you serious? you gotta be kidding me.
(give them to us, at kami na bahala. we will cut the vine down to its root para di na mapamarisan pa)
Thirdly, it's "Let Jesus live in our hearts, always and forever!"
(hmmmmm san nga ba malakas kutob ko sa'yo)
iliganon, ginagalit mo na ako. taena ka. wala akong ginagawa sayo tapos kung ano anong pinagsasabi mo dyan. kalahi mo talaga mga de la paz, kaya ka pala kampi ng kampi sakanila eh.
una sa lahat, iligan city is part of the Moro ancestral domain kaya lumayas ka na okay?
you are so provoking me. tapos pag ako naprovoke, sasabihin mo inaapi kita? hay naku... muslim discrimination na ito. whatever i say you will never understand because you are a certified anti-muslim. you are so close-minded and you will rot in hell.
P.S. don't talk to me in your dialect coz i don't understand booshit.
BTW @dino me and my bros will fly mamaya to CDO, Iligan, Davao and Bukidnon for a conference regarding kapalpakan ng gobyernong ito sa pagsugpo ng mga rebelde sa Mindanao na may kasama pa kunong Piss Panel who obviously are f****d up individuals. we will try to do what every self-respecting people in Mindanao WANT to do (i think alam mo na yun kung talagang Kristyano ka)
my mistahs here would also like to go to the places you mentioned na hangout mo. so i hope to see you there, kiddo. we can play a round of at CDO and we can overtake slow-moving golfers too. no problem if they'll complain, tatadtarin namin ng bala, which by the way are issued by the RP government of course. oks ba?
@Bai a Labi
Iligan City and the rest of Mindanao, is THE home of Filipinos specifically Mindanaoans if you want me to force this information down your teeny weeny brain.
it is NOT some Moro ancestral shit that you and your people are insisting and trying hard to obtain by crook or by crook.
this is not some Muslim discrimination booshit you and your weeny weeny brain is trying to think.
this is THE FACT we would like you to learn:
Mindanao = Filipino
Mindanao x Moros
kapish?
now go wash your ima's shitty ass in the river, it's been stinking days already.
iliganon, you are so full of hatred and you have no sense at all. i pity you.
people, check this blog:
http://hunnyjodipattycakes.blogspot.com/2008/12/other-side-of-story.html
http://www.pinoygolfer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5801&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=pangandaman&start=180
be enlightened.
do not cloud your minds with prejudices just like iliganon.
Wow. These comments are getting ridiculous.
Let's keep the anti-Muslim/pro-Muslim/anti-Christian/pro-Christian/whatever out of this and stick to issues of common decency, please.
@Bai, stop posting the same thing over and over again. We've all read it. It's getting really old. It was hilarious the first time, now it's just grating. You are entitled to your opinion of the events, and that's fine, but spamming's so not getting you on anyone's good side. Especially spamming Bambee's own blog about it. I hope you realize how indecent that looks.
I'm actually quite grateful that you guys are linking the pinoygolfers thread, because if you read the ensuing conversation from it, a poster named "jick" makes excellent points, and I agree with many of what he said. I encourage everyone to read the linked post and the discussion that followed.
Valley Golf is being extremely unprofessional with how it's handling matters, and what the heck is the head of the fact-finding committee doing saying his (very biased) findings to people unrelated to the case? If these are the sorts of people being entrusted with the investigation, then no wonder senators and mayors like the Pangandamans exist in our government.
This post at the Pinoygolfers forum can hardly be construed as absolute truth. It's a second-hand account of one person about someone else's faulty investigation. I'm not saying Rge is duping anyone, but the "facts" as they were presented to him aren't as untainted as Bai & co. would have us believe. Read it and form your own opinion, guys.
On a slightly more related note, it would be interesting to see someone compile a list of inconsistencies among the Pangandamans' interviews and such from DZMM and news article quotes, because I think they've contradicted themselves quite a number of times. I'm still laughing at the interview where Pangandaman Jr. "recounts" how Bambee and Bino (an 18-year old and a 14-year old with rather slim builds) supposedly managed to both restrain and beat up Hussein while everyone else just stood there and watched (or were busy trying to wrestle an umbrella from a frail, old man LMAO).
Also, I found this link from a post on Multiply while link-hopping. It's the scan of the incident report from Valley Golf:
http://midfield.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/valley-golf-guards-report-pangandaman-security-men-drew-guns-on-dela-pazes/
clarifying that the bodyguards were indeed there, and that they drew guns in a menacing manner against the de la Pazes.
To Bambee's supporters, I think we'll help her most if we keep ourselves informed and updated. Prayers are all well and good, but, as a few good people have already mentioned before me, let's not let this fade into obscurity.
Shame on them!!!! They were called public servants but they act like their should be the one na dapat katakutan.. Same goes to the people that voted for this mayor in their town. Thats why I don't want any slight involvement to the goverment. Mas takot pa nga ako sa pulis kay sa holdaper (got the idea?). =(
I'm glad that you stood by it with courage and didn't walk away with it. For sure, people will learn something on this. I'm still not losing hope for Philippines. Keep up the faith. GodBless. =)
I will continously pray to God that Justice would prevail.
Which ever side of the coin we look at the situation the Pagdanganan's as Public officials has the full responsibility. They should be model protector and respectful of the tax payers.
The Pagdanganan may have power and influence right now, but I think they lost the most important one which is HONOR.
May God Bless your family and The Filipino people from Evil Politicians.
I am spreading the news to all filipinos I know here in the US.
Just hold on. :)
Wala na akong inaasahan na magbibigay ng tamang hustisya kung hindi ang mga taong labas. Ang ating gubyerno lalo na si GMA at sampu ng kanyang mga kaalyado sa politika, AFP, PNP, DOJ, NBI, Ombudsman, Supreme Court, CA atbp ay pinaglalaruan lang ang hustisya sa Pilipinas. Ang batas nila ay para lang sa mga mahihirap na walang laban sa kanilang talino at impluwensya...Malabo na rin magkaroon pa ng isang Ninoy para magkaisa ang buong Pilipino dahil sobrang hirap ng buhay sa Pilipinas ay pati kaluluwa ng ating mga mahihirap na kababayan ay binebenta na lalo na kung panahon ng election. Kasalanan natin kung bakit may nagsasamantala dahil natin itinatama kung sila ay nagsasamantala...This blog will not do anything to change it. Ang tamang gawin ay drastic action to confront these monsters! Sana ay makamit ng mga Dela Paz ay tunay na hustisya sa kasalukuyan sistema pero I have my doubts......Kung ako na talaga si demon ay talagang nilipol ko na ang mga walanghiya at sa over 80 million ang population ng Pilipinas, siguro magiging maluwag ang bansang Pinas sa mga matitira.....
@iliganon,
This blog and comments here is about the incident at that Golf course. Ngayon naging off-topic na tayo, its about Muslims vs Krsityano na. And I am not aware na ang mag-cocomment pala dito ay dapat kampi sa author, ang kontra dapat tumahimik. I am not pro or againts the Pangandaman....I just stated here, together with the whole story of the incident, that people should also see the other side of the coin before judging. Now ano ginawa mo, you told me to "shut up", pumapalag ako, at lalo ka nagalit sabihin mo ngayon moklo ako at kung ano ano... bakit ka nagagalit? Yeah because truth hurts, soldier! Now youre telling me something sa pananlita ko hindi mo gusto. Eh ikaw ang unang nagyabang dyan eh...yan napapala mo kahihiyan. Di ba, similar to the golf incident? :)
Sige bai, tell me exactly when you will be in Iligan and CDO at sino kayo doon, magpapakilala ako sayo. Hindi ka pala Iliganon eh bakit iliganon ang pangalan mo dito??? Btw, meron bang "traveller" sa inyo? That would be better. Please ask your bros.
Oh at yang isa pang hirit mo, sablay ka na naman. "Live Jesus always in our hearts forever" is a Lasallian expression, sabi ko nga HS grad ako ng LSA Iligan..if youre really Iliganon, alam mo yan! :) Anyway for your added knowledge --> http://www.lasalleyakima.com/home/Resources%20and%20Links/Lasallian%20Prayer,%20Live%20Jesus/index.html
@Bai a Labi,
Iligan City is NOT a part of Moro ancestral domain.....saan mo naman nakuha yan???? Kelan ba naging "muslim" ang Iligan? Ever since, majority parin ang Kristyano sa Iligan at wala pa sa kalahati ang population nyo dun. Ngayon lang dumami ang Muslims na galing lahat ng Marawi kse masyado lang linient ang mga mayors namin, unlike sa CDO. Kaya dont ever claim Iligan na Moro ancestral domain ang Iligan wala kang proof kahit balikan mo pa ang history nyan. Never mo mapalayas ang mga true Iliganons dun...lumalaban kami handa kami sa gierra nyo, wag lang magsimula ng gulo ang mga muslims :) Dont get me wrong, I am not anti-muslim, but I am anti-magugulong tao.
Teka off-topic na tayo sabi eh :)
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Wala na akong inaasahan na magbibigay ng tamang hustisya kung hindi ang mga taong labas. Ang ating gubyerno lalo na si GMA at sampu ng kanyang mga kaalyado sa politika, AFP, PNP, DOJ, NBI, Ombudsman, Supreme Court, CA atbp ay pinaglalaruan lang ang hustisya sa Pilipinas. Ang batas nila ay para lang sa mga mahihirap na walang laban sa kanilang talino at impluwensya...Malabo na rin magkaroon pa ng isang Ninoy para magkaisa ang buong Pilipino dahil sobrang hirap ng buhay sa Pilipinas ay pati kaluluwa ng ating mga mahihirap na kababayan ay binebenta na lalo na kung panahon ng election. Kasalanan natin kung bakit may nagsasamantala dahil natin itinatama kung sila ay nagsasamantala...This blog will not do anything to change it. Ang tamang gawin ay drastic action to confront these monsters! Sana ay makamit ng mga Dela Paz ay tunay na hustisya sa kasalukuyan sistema pero I have my doubts......Kung ako na talaga si demon ay talagang nilipol ko na ang mga walanghiya at sa over 80 million ang population ng Pilipinas, siguro magiging maluwag ang bansang Pinas sa mga matitira.....
DEMON,
TAMA KA at HINDI KITA MASISISI!
AKO RIN AY MAYRON GANON PANANAW NOON. BIKTIMA NGA AKO NG KARAHASAN DIN.
NANG MAG AWAY AWAY MGA MEDIA DITO SA BUTUAN CITY at gusto patalsikin si DIRECTOR LINDA PATANAO ng PIA.
Ako'y nagsuhestiyon na sundin lang ang tamang proseso. Imbestigahan dapat. Kasi natatanaw ko na iilan ay interesado sa posisyon ni Patanao.
Ginagawang puhunan ang unpopularity ni ptanao para sa personal interes na hinayupak na mga kapwa mediamen ko.
Sa isang miting sinabi ko na patunayan dapat ang mga paratang upang itoy di hearsay lamang.
Ang nangyari ako pa ang masama ngayon. Sinugod ako ng mag-amang Pat Samonte at Obet Samonte ng Gold Star Daily newspaper. Isang Cagayan de Oro City based local newspaper dahil kinakampihan ko daw si Patanao.
Buti na lang at nailagan ko ang mga suntok ng dalawa.
Nang ako'y humingi ng tulong sa NUJP at iba pang media organization di ako tinulungan.
Naalis si Patanao bilang PIA Director ngayon ang PIA Caraga Regional Office ay walang pagbabago kahit bago na ang direktor.
Corruption at its worst at the PIA Caraga Regional Office until now.
Hustisya dito sa atin bansa ay hindi batay sa katotohanan kundi sa influence at power.
http://www.pinoygolfer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5801&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=pangandaman&start=180 >>>> i smell something fishy here! mulat mo mga mata mo baka ikaw ang maliwananagan. but dont even think about it na kung nagbubulagbulagan ka lang...nyak!
sabi mo nga...no one knows about the real truth except God. jan lang ako agree sayo! pero pano kung mali ka sa pinaniniwalaan mo? at ni reveal ni God na mali ka. would you stand still with what you believe? kaya mahirap din ipaglaban mo ang isang bagay na di ka sigurado. hmnnn esep esep...
asan nga pala si mayor at yung isang anak pa ni pangandaman??? arent they brave enough to face the media? para naman makita namin kalmot nila... bka maawa yung iba. kaso nagtatago na ata, dhail ba may tintagong katotohanan? nyahahaha! o baka matatapang lang sila sa matanda at mga bata? kakahiya...
isa pa pala, yung valley golf admin, bat pala sila takot mag salita... di naman masyadong halata no... wala e may makapangyarihan. sino nga ba? esep esep nalng mga peeps. kung pupunta kayo sa lugar na eto at may nangyari sa inyo, for sure, no corcern at all ang golf course na eto pag malakas ang tumira sayo. pera pera lang din yata sila e. shame on you pipol there.
esep esep... dont under estimate anyone here, eka nga di lahat ng tao tanga... esep esep...
The mob mentality here is amazing. For those who want to simply state the truth and say the other side of the story..."BAYARAN ka kaagad ng PANGANDAMANS"!!! Can't people simply state their side of the story because that is what they believe in?
If you believe that Bambee's story is accurate and true then that is your right.
But for those who believe that the De La Paz family are an arrogant bunch that had it coming, that is another side that has to be accepted. Apparently, the father (who is not a golfer) is "hated" in the tennis courts that he frequents in Taytay.
As for the 14year boy being beaten.... If a thief enters your house and you see him in the act of stealing your TV, will you ask him what his age is???? Guys, think of what your arguments are...this particular 14 year is quite big for his age. In a brawl, you will not stop to ask how old a person is before punching him. Does his age of 14 years free him from the consequences of hitting the mayor with his driver? So what if you are 14 years old --- if you are the one shouting at the other party with expletives you will really get hurt.
As for the Dad, same thing...old, young, white, brown, straight, gay, what have you........ IT DOES NOT MATTER. If you are arrogant, you will one day face a person who will not tolerate your arrogance... and you will most likely eat dirt!
Are the Pangandamans arrogant? For all I know they may be arrogant as well. But what I do know is that they did not PROVOKE anybody physically!!! Being 56 years old does not give you the right to poke anybody with an umbrella!
mga mahal kong kapatid...tigilan na natin itong pagtuturuan dahil lalo lamang natin pinalalaki ang sunog. ipaubaya na natin sa Puong Maykapal, Universal Intelligence, Diyos o ano mang tawag niyo. patuloy lamang nating pinalalakas ang "negative vibration" ng kasamaan sa patuloy nating tampulan. iwaksi muna natin ang kasamaan sa ating isip at palitan natin ng kabutihan, nang "positive energy/vibration." lumalaganap ang kasamaan, kahirapan, pangaapi dahil ito na lamang ang sinasaisip natin. para bagang "victim mode" lagi tayo kaya ito nga nangyayari sa buhay natin. ang metaphor ng "smile and the world will smile on you" ay may katotohanan. nakikita lang natin ang gusto nating makita. at dahil kasamaan ang lagi nating sinasariwa at pinaguusapan, ito ang ating nakikita. "we are what we think we are" kaya mag-shift naman tayo ng paningin mula kasamaan sa kabutihan sa bagong taong ito. alam ng lahat ito at prweba ng science. Think Positive sabi nga ni Dr Peale. lahat tayo ay may pagkukulang. kung ang Diyos, ng kahit anong relehiyon, ay nakapagpatawad, sino ba tayong kanyang nilalang lamang.
"Peace on earth ang goodwill to men." masaganang bagong taon sa inyong lahat!
update: walang effort ang pangandaman to settle the issue. peace secretary ba eto???
Verum - Why did you believe that the De La Paz's provoke this fight. Was it because of what you have read? Were you present when it happened to believe it? Come on now! Whether the de la Paz's provoked this incident does not justify the other parties actions.
in our country where petty robbers would kill for 500 pesos. what would you expect from a cabinet secretary of the most corrupt person in the philippines? sheesh.
first of all with the salary of that secretary and that mayor, can they even afford a golf club with it? pathetic piece of shit!
@venum, nadale mo brad. 14 year old nga...pero 5'6" at 140lbs. Kung ikaw yung sinusugod o hinahampas ng golf club ng batang to, ano gagawin mo? Tatanungin mo muna edad nya? Kahit na sagutin ka nya na 14 yrs old palang sya...pero hahampasin ka nya ng golf club, hindi ka pa rin papalag dahil sinabi nyang minor pa sya? Kung ako yun, I will use all means necessary to subdue him and strike back to knock him down to make sure he cannot swing that golf club again. When I was a 14 yrs old, I am aware of what trouble or damage I can do. Kayo masasabi nyo bang nung 14-yrs old kayo di kayo makabasag pinggan??? Get real
Dont get me wrong, I have also encountered already this Hussein Pangandaman in the past, at hindi ko gusto talaga ugali nyan mayabang yan, ask all his batchmates in Xavier U. But I will not elaborate kse off-topic na.
As I said, lets stick lang to the main issue...about that incident in Valley Golf....sino ang nagpasimuno ng gulo? Sino ang naging aggresive which resulted into this unfortunate incident? Dun lang tayo.
For the Pangandamans, kahit na lumabas pa na mali ang Dela Paz, they should have been more responsible since they are public officials nga. Sabi nga nila, "with great power comes great responsibility". Malas lang nila Public officials sila kaya nasa kanila ang sisi.
brent,
I pity your logic.."whether or not the De la paz's provoked the fight does not justify the other parties actions"
Wow so if I walk up to you and hit you with an umbrella and start poking your stomach with it you will not react? You must really be a patient man.
For you info I am a member of Valley golf and I know, based on official testimony, what REALLY happened. I know neither the De la Paz Family not the Pangandamans.
I just want to air the truth.
Verum - what I was trying to say here are guns vs. an umbrella and the Pangandamans being public officials as they are. I also, believe that Valley Golf is responsible as they could have called the police as soon as they realized that someone was hurt. Now, please tell me if they've done that.
iliganon,
pmayer ka pala? kung ganyan na mag isip mga pmayer ngayon, talaga namang matagal tagal pa bago matapos ang problema sa mindanao.
iliganon,
pmayer ka pala? kung ganyan na mag isip mga pmayer ngayon, talaga namang matagal tagal pa bago matapos ang problema sa mindanao.
brent.... there were no guns involved at any time. And yes the police were called.
Verum - I found this and it does says there were guns. http://midfield.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/valley-golf-guards-report-pangandaman-security-men-drew-guns-on-dela-pazes/
The police were called and considering the seriousness of the incident, I was wondering if they actually took either or both of the parties into custody for questioning to get their statements. Correct me if I am wrong here... although, my mind was telling me that the police would not do exactly that to a cabinet member and you and everyone else know why. But then again, I thought no one should be above the law.
brent,
The letter showed on the link you gave is too incomplete to make any comment.
What we have to remember is this...there were two rounds of fighting...(1) on the course and (2) in the clubhouse.
By the time the DelaPaz family came into the clubhouse after round 1, they the father and Bino was bloody already because Hussein Pangandaman is a HUGE fellow. But there were no guns there.
Round two happened in the clubhouse...still no guns. Since no bodyguards are allowed inside the club. The only time the bodyguards came in was at the end of round two. And yes, by that time, they had guns. But even the NBI said nobody can stop them anymore from entering. They were detailing a Cabinet member of the Republic of the Philippines, it was their duty to protect their detail. But when they entered, they at no time, pointed any gun at anybody!!!
Verum - I guess the police were not called after the first fight?
brent,
I do not know the exact time the police were called. But the time frame between the first and second round were only minutes from what I gathered.
Hi. I've been following your family's plight. I just heard that they had the gall to file a counter-suit against you.
I'm sure this could've been settled by just a simple CIVILIZED conversation. Especially if the older Pangandaman didn't 'participate'.
They should humble themselves and apologize to your family, because as public officials a HIGHER STANDARD is expected of them.
I hope you don't give up this fight. This is becoming more than a golf altercation but a blatant abuse of power by people in the government.
It's funny how people who accuse others of falling for the mob mentality are basically prey to the exact same thing and are blind to it. Also, Verum, unless you actually -witnessed- the event, then you're in the same boat as we are, dude. You're relying on the account of someone who might have witnessed what happened as well. If you think you're in a better position to "relay facts," then bully for you, you aren't. Our source is Bambee, your source is a witness from Valley Golf who needed days before releasing his or her recollection of the events. Let's not forget the emergency meeting VGCC held right after their collective silence with the police. Although I do thank you for relaying what the Pangandamans or what Valley Golf might be saying in court, it does put some things in context.
I repeat (because these guys just LOVE copy/pasting the exact same pinoygolfer URL, LOL), anyone concerned with this issue SHOULD read that Pinoygolfer thread and read the ensuing discussion. Some users have efficiently dissected that report. At first reading, it clearly panders the Pangandamans, and my doubts that this case is being handled by the wrong people were erased, if that is the "impartial" sort of investigating that the fact-finding committee is boasting about.
Guys, saying "if someone poked you with an umbrella, wouldn't you hit that guy too?" is such a silly way of countering this whole argument. First off, we aren't the DAR Secretary. We don't have his set of expectations that public officials are expected to have -- a set of expectations that the DAR Secretary clearly does not possess for not even lifting a finger to prevent the fight. Yeah, effective peace negotiating skills there. The peace talks in Mindanao are going to go SO WELL!
Secondly, I wouldn't hit that guy, I'd let the security freaking handle it -to avoid a mess like this one.- What idiotic official would let their family participate in a fight, provoked or unprovoked, with civilians? You're a public official, -you don't go around hitting people,- period. We didn't vote unthinking monkeys and barbarians in positions of power. Or at least we thought we didn't. It's so insanely clear that Pangandaman Sr. is unfit for his current position, and I'm glad to see there might be people in the Malacanang that think so too, if there's any substance to this article:
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/142398/DAR-chief-appeals-for-fairness-to-bloggers-over-golf-clubhouse-mauling
On a different note: of course others can post the other version of the story -here,- but, you know...you enter someone's house, you start calling the family liars, expect that family's friends to throw tomatoes at your face. There are more appropriate venues for people to air their opinions of the issue without getting as much grief for it, really. I appreciate that Bambee is kind enough to not block comments from her blog or censor anyone from speaking their side, that speaks much of her character.
On an unrelated note, the holidays are off, back to school and work for most of us. Hope you guys don't have to suffer through the godawful traffic today like I did :(.
all,
heto, pinakabagong update lang po mga peeps, significant eto... peace to all!!!
read: http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/01/05/09/pangandaman-kin-face-child-abuse-injury-raps-over-golf-brawl
Because of Republic Act 7610, higher penalties are now imposed against perpetrators of crimes against minors. In this case Pangandamans may be imprisoned for a minimum of six years and one day.
Nasser Pangandaman Jr.'s position as a mayor can be considered as an aggravating circumstance, and he may face the maximum penalty from 9 to 12 years of imprisonment.
For info lang... peace to all!!!
hi there, i always include your family in my prayers and i hope justice will be serve in favor of you. those politicians and their bodyguards may rot in hell for what they have done to your family.
peeps... fyi ulet!!!
On Saturday, a Palace executive hinted that the Department of Agrarian Reform (DAR) chief may no longer enjoy as much trust in Malacañang as a result of the Antipolo golf course incident.
Presidential Management Staff (PMS) head Cerge Remonde said the only thing keeping Pangandaman in the Cabinet is the ongoing investigation into the incident.
i posted this link on my plurk account if you don't mind.
i hate people who stopped you from fighting just because they're scared.. they're one of the reasons why these politicians just get away with everything.
i pray for your family.
Hi my heart goes out to you and your family. I have prayed that justice will prevail. it was an overkill, they were pissed off but again they use their barbaric ways and political positions in dealing with it. ABUSADO SILA, they should pay for that. People are on your side. cheer up.
From a friend, here in China
ipatawag yan sa kangaroo court para magtanda!!
Ugh, too tired to delete/re-post, so addendum to my previous comment: replace "erased" with "made firm." :/
Thanks for the heads up mp7. That last bit you quoted was also from the article I linked previously, but it does bear repeating. I just wish it were a little more than "hinted."
grabe talaga ito noong nabalitaan ko. and i overheard na ipinublish na ang pangyayaring ito sa isang blog. i never realized that the link to this blog would go as far as sa aking e-mail... politics talaga... tsk tsk... this is one of those 101 reasons why philippines sucks.
We are praying for you and your family! What happened was terrible! May justice prevail.
Ms. de la Paz:
While many have posted their comments of anger and contempt regarding what happened to you, your brother and to your father, be rest assured that there are ten of thousands more sympathizing quietly because they might not have time or access to the internet. These countrymen of ours are one with you in condemning the incident last Dec. 26, 2008.
Many of these politicians who are currently in their post because they were placed there by the common 'TAO'; fed, clothe, sheltered and paid by the Filipino people are today the very ones that are quite abusive. What do we expect when the leaders like the Good Secretary all the way down to the barangay tanods or Kagawads try to mimick or even better these so-called traits of our leaders. A very good example of this is what happens daily in the very busy streets of Metro Manila. Motorcycle cops escorting politicians, government bigwigs and generals of the Armed Forces and the Police bully and snake their way everyday to pass all the vehicles suffering in our very heavy busy streets.
But don't worry, God is good. God is all knowing and God is just. Let us pray that one day, hopefully sooner than later, He will send another Ninoy to us to lead our country to a better Philippines.
Ms. de la Paz:
While many have posted their comments of anger and contempt regarding what happened to you, your brother and to your father, be rest assured that there are ten of thousands more sympathizing quietly because they might not have time or access to the internet. These countrymen of ours are one with you in condemning the incident last Dec. 26, 2008.
Many of these politicians who are currently in their post because they were placed there by the common 'TAO'; fed, clothe, sheltered and paid by the Filipino people are today the very ones that are quite abusive. What do we expect when the leaders like the Good Secretary all the way down to the barangay tanods or Kagawads try to mimick or even better these so-called traits of our leaders. A very good example of this is what happens daily in the very busy streets of Metro Manila. Motorcycle cops escorting politicians, government bigwigs and generals of the Armed Forces and the Police bully and snake their way everyday to pass all the vehicles suffering in our very heavy busy streets.
But don't worry, God is good. God is all knowing and God is just. Let us pray that one day, hopefully sooner than later, He will send another Ninoy to us to lead our country to a better Philippines.
Ms. de la Paz:
While many have posted their comments of anger and contempt regarding what happened to you, your brother and to your father, be rest assured that there are ten of thousands more sympathizing quietly because they might not have time or access to the internet. These countrymen of ours are one with you in condemning the incident last Dec. 26, 2008.
Many of these politicians who are currently in their post because they were placed there by the common 'TAO'; fed, clothe, sheltered and paid by the Filipino people are today the very ones that are quite abusive. What do we expect when the leaders like the Good Secretary all the way down to the barangay tanods or Kagawads try to mimick or even better these so-called traits of our leaders. A very good example of this is what happens daily in the very busy streets of Metro Manila. Motorcycle cops escorting politicians, government bigwigs and generals of the Armed Forces and the Police bully and snake their way everyday to pass all the vehicles suffering in our very heavy busy streets.
But don't worry, God is good. God is all knowing and God is just. Let us pray that one day, hopefully sooner than later, He will send another Ninoy to us to lead our country to a better Philippines.
Ms. de la Paz:
While many have posted their comments of anger and contempt regarding what happened to you, your brother and to your father, be rest assured that there are ten of thousands more sympathizing quietly because they might not have time or access to the internet. These countrymen of ours are one with you in condemning the incident last Dec. 26, 2008.
Many of these politicians who are currently in their post because they were placed there by the common 'TAO'; fed, clothe, sheltered and paid by the Filipino people are today the very ones that are quite abusive. What do we expect when the leaders like the Good Secretary all the way down to the barangay tanods or Kagawads try to mimick or even better these so-called traits of our leaders. A very good example of this is what happens daily in the very busy streets of Metro Manila. Motorcycle cops escorting politicians, government bigwigs and generals of the Armed Forces and the Police bully and snake their way everyday to pass all the vehicles suffering in our very heavy busy streets.
But don't worry, God is good. God is all knowing and God is just. Let us pray that one day, hopefully sooner than later, He will send another Ninoy to us to lead our country to a better Philippines.
Education talaga pinakamalaking problema ng Pinas, Karamihan din sa mga Pulitiko WALA NITO!!
I just heard the DAR secretary asking bloggers to stop "attacking" them. My God, what did he do when his people were attacking your brother and your dad!
We only have words, and boy, are we going to use it against him. He doesn 't know what being in power means. As far as I am concerned, he has no business asking people to stop. People like him must stop their brutishness. Excuse me. I am so angry.
I pray for you and your family.
Ipag pray ko yung Mayor saka yung Bodyguards nya.. "Kunin na sana kayo ni Lord!!"
To Bambee and the De La Paz Family.
My prayers are with you, I hope that you can find justice.
As for the Pangandamans...Shame on you people. Yung pagiging nasa "poder" nyo ay hindi dahilan para gawin ang anumang bagay na gusto nyong gawin. Wala akong paki alam kung Muslim kayo o Kristyano, pare-pareho lang tayong Pilipino
Masyado kayong mayayabang, kaya feeling nyo hindi kayo kayang galawin. Kakarmahin din kayo mga leche!
update mga peeps!!!
The online petition has gathered 797 signatures as of 4:15 p.m. Monday... and still increasing.....
tsk tsk tsk... karma is coming for those bad people!!! wehehehe...
ahhh alam ko na magandang parusa sa kanila!
pakainin nyo sila ng hamon lol!
I would like to add my voice of condemnation for the injustice done to your family by these power-drunk policitians. May you find the strength and courage to continue your fight for justice. Your example will be a source of inspiration for those who have suffered long and hard in this screwed up system we call our government.
hi! i support your fight, thanks to blog that we have other medium in voicing out our cries.
Hi bambee. I've been constantly monitoring via internet and TFC news regarding what happen on your family. I know that it would be too hard for you nor your brothers and parents to accept what happen. I mean of what manner these guys (Mayor, his brother, bodyguards and DAR Chief itself) did BRUTALLY, UNPROFESSIONALLY AND SARCASTICALLY to you guys is really UNBELIEVABLE.
All I've been praying and hoping that you guys will take good care of yourself. You have all our support of whatever capacity that we could give. May god strengthen you, give you and your attorney the wisdowm to win the case and to protect you from the EVIL ONES.
Dont worry, these bad guys will have their days and I'm sure that they will regret one day doing such barbaric manners.
Nasa likod mo po at ng iyong pamilya and suporta ng manggagawang pinoy sa labas ng bansa.
dendoy... masyado mo namang sinupalpal si verum... ayun tumahimik tuloy at baka nagsusumbong na sa mga ka "valley golfers" niya. i have a property inside that subdivision, but the golf course/club there is low quality.
anyway, let's just hope that justice will be served. just sick and tired of abusive, undeserving, incompetent, vote buying, bullying, think they're above the law politicians there in pinas. peace to all from san diego
Verum is one pathetic loser. Feeling me-against-the-world. LOL.
PSSST ILIGANON!
what the heck, i feel like doing this all caps: I DO NOT PROFESS TO BE MOSLEM OR CHRISTIAN BUT I REALLY FEEL SAD ABOUT YOUR ATTITUDE TOWARD MOSLEMS!!!!!! YOU BELONG TO THE PAST!
THE MORAL BURDEN IS ON THE POWERS THAT BE, THE PANGANDAMANS, PERIOD. IT'S CLEAR IT'S HYPROCRISY WHEN THEY ACCUSE THE DE LA PAZES OF BAD GOLF ETTIQUETTE WHEN THEY THEMSELVES CANNOT EVEN HAVE RESTRAINT AS LEADERS OF THE FILIPINO PEOPLE.
WHILE I DO NOT SIDE WITH THE PANGANDAMANS, I'M CURIOUS. I'D LIKE TO ASK BAMBEE:
DOES YOUR FATHER HAVE A HISTORY OF ATTITUDE PROBLEM WITH OTHER PEOPLE?????????????
HOPE YOU CAN ANSWER IT HONESTLY.
IF HE HAS, THEN HE IS A MAGNET FOR PEOPLE LIKE HIM.
Please curse only the people around this not the whole family of Pangandaman's. In the family there's always a good and black sheep.
Peace Bambee im not against you.. I also hate what the Pangandaman's made to your Dad and brother Bino?.. But it always states the only convicted person should suffer the consequences..
The things we can do now is to pray, that only the truth will force the lies of their tongues..
peace .\m/.
nivrad,
I choose to remain quiet because most of the comments of the bloggers like you are not worth to answer. No matter how much truth I say here, you have made you minds about the incident. So believe in what you want to believe. I am having fun reading all your comments though.
Ang mga abusadong pulitikong iyan ay HINDI DAPAT IBOTO at dapat magresign na! They must languish in hell forever and ever.
hi,
God is good all the time kaya alam ko na mabibigyan kayo ng justice.
ingat kayo palagi.
God bless!!!!
malou
the NBI is now involved.
Cases have been filed by both parties, the de la paz and the pangandaman..
IF the dela paz will win the case, then i will despise the pangandaman. but i don't think they deserve to be put to jail just because of this. and i don't think they should lose their job just for this too. it would be so unfair.
BUT IF the pangandaman will win the case, i will forever curse the de la paz's. i wish them to suffer for all their lifetime for arousing and starting hatred against innocent people and even convincing a lot of people to feel for them. and to those who called the pangandaman nasty names, they should at the very least ask for forgiveness for what they did.
i just hope this thing gets settled na coz i have a lot of things to do but i just couldn't keep myself from not voicing out what i think.
@dino, don't be mad. if you trace back history, almost whole of mindanao belong to the moro people. the ancestral domain conflict started when people from luzon migrated in mindanao and claim lands. and if im not mistaken, it was also people from luzon who drove moro people away from their lands because they were a minority. okay enough of history.
@dendoy. i feel the need to post the other side of the story blog so people won't rush to conclusion just because of this blog. and if bambee is truly innocent, she won't mind at all.
To bambee, i have finally seen you in youtube. the way you talk drops hint of arrogance and pag-iinarte. no offense bloggers, just my opinion.
haaay! what else is new? Abusive and corrupt politicians using their positions to harrass ordinary citizens?
Anyway, we are with you in your fight for justice. We'll go to the streets if we need to. Dapat mabura na sa mundo ang mga ganyang klase ng tao.
Our prayers are with you! That's your best defense.
http://images.plurk.com/3287747_edb17342b63486a43bac34da07a77de0.jpg
may gumawa ng protest art. nakita ko sa net. share ko lang.
hi I'm sorry to hear about this. What are your plans now? I think you should really sue them?
I hate politicians. They should be remove from their positions, such behaviors should not be tolerated
@Bai a Labi,
Sabi mo pag ang pangandaman ang may mali, you will despise them but they should not be jailed? Eh ano gagawin sa kanila? Pero pag ang DelaPaz naman ang mali, you will curse them! Teka teka mukhang wala ka sa tama....anong klaseng pag-iisip naman yan parang malabo yata. It only means you are not for the Truth..you are baised for the Pangandamans kahit lalabas na sila talaga ang mali. Tsk tsk. Nagpapatawa ka naman dito eh.
At least ako hindi naman ganon mag-isip.
Anyway, you still failed to show me proof from history that Mindanao is solely for the Moros. Show it to me...look for a unbiased link in the internet....if its true Im sure there must be a link for it somewhere. Until then, that is just your own opinion or your own imagination or a story told to you by your friends or relatives. Its easy to make a story Im sorry you cant prove its credibility.
Gaano ba kadami ang muslims compared sa Kristyano sa Mindanao? Hindi ba wala pa sa kalahati? Minority lang din ang moros. Sana ang Kristyano ang minority...kung totoong originally for the Moros ang Mindanao. Kaya lang naman nabansagan ng mga taga Manila (lalo na yun di pa nakarating ng Mindanao) na ang Mindanao eh muslim area, eh kase karamihan sa muslims nasa Mindanao compara sa Luzon at Visayas. So again get your facts straight ans show proof to whatever you are sharing here.
Opps off-topic na naman sorry :)
I observed that the blog is that while it seek for justice the Blog betrays justice. In the first paragraph it says:
"Mayor Nasser Pangandaman, Jr., Mayor of Masiu City, Lanao del Sur, his father, Secretary Nasser Pangandaman of the Department of Agrarian Reform, and company, beat my defenseless 56-year-old dad and my 14-year-old brother to a pulp"
In short, the Secretary directly participated in beating the defenseless father and his son.
But in 10th paragraph it states that:
"Im pretty sure the Secretary of DAR did not take part in the fight."
But again in 11 paragraph it concludes that:
"The world has gone crazy. Two politicians [the Mayor and the Sec] beat up a defenseless 56-year-old father and his 14-year-old son."
http://images.plurk.com/3287747_edb17342b63486a43bac34da07a77de0.jpg
may gumawa ng protest art. nakita ko sa net. share ko lang.
imagine a mayor and his dad, a Government official playing Golf in Luzon instead of serving their constituents and doing their job in Mindanao ...there's a lot of problem here in Mindanao which they can help solve ...don't create any more problems for our country...We support Bambee and her family in seeking justice for this incident..its the Filipino'S taxpayers money they are using for this golfing activities? which I hope not...
oo nga nu Manggang Kalabaw, bakit nga ba wala sa Lanao sila nun araw nayun? Pero siempre right nila yun, kaya lang kung committed politicians sila eh dapat nga nasa mga kalahi nila o kaya constituents nila, sana dun sila sa Lanao kasama ng mga moslems and christians and lumads, etc. nun araw na yun. (haaay, kung saan-saan na naunta etong issue)
oo nga nu Manggang Kalabaw, bakit nga ba wala sa Lanao sila nun araw nayun? Pero siempre right nila yun, kaya lang kung committed politicians sila eh dapat nga nasa mga kalahi nila o kaya constituents nila, sana dun sila sa Lanao kasama ng mga moslems and christians and lumads, etc. nun araw na yun. (haaay, kung saan-saan na naunta etong issue)
I am not shocked anymore of this incident..it only confirms that many of the country's politician have lots of power and so little work to do for the people so they just travel away from their job and commmit this horrible acts..also lots of imagination to trample our dignity just to show how powerful they are, these father and sons are sportsmen in the wrong direction..imagine lampasan mo sa round ang iba which is a golfing violation tapos sinamahan pa ng boxing pero me kasama na madaming kakampi then gusto pang mag olympic shooting...that's why nothing happen to us in everything ...madaya talaga pag pulitiko nasanay na ata sa dayaan sa election pati sa sport madaya pa rin pati sa away madaya din...we pray for our country
my prayers with you.
thanks for the info on the protest art. ehhehehheh nice. check this site:
http://images.plurk.com/3287747_edb17342b63486a43bac34da07a77de0.jpg
"paluin sila pangandamans" = golf ball sila P ehehehehe
my prayers goes to you and your family, i'll keep a link in my blog to help spread the world.. let's take it outside the world, let people know and let them embarrased.. take care and fast recovery to your dad and bro..
my prayers goes to you and your family, i'll keep a link in my blog to help spread the world.. let's take it outside the world, let people know and let them embarrased.. take care and fast recovery to your dad and bro..
This is one reason why I distrust politicians. Some of them no longer possess a conscience, more so a soul, to speak of. And they protect each other without any consideration for what's right, wrong, ethical or fair. Just look at GMA abusing her authority to pardon convicted criminal politicians and affluent people. I hope and pray you and your family would have the courage and perseverance to go the distance with this and I fervently hope you won't accept an out-of-court settlement. This conduct is unbecoming and downright shameful of people who are supposedly the leaders of the country. Being a blatant abuse of power that's derived from the Constitution, this should be considered a crime against the people of the Philippines, and thus should never be tolerated. Just think of the next person they'd be doing this to.
I have already posted my sympathy post and even a running account on my website. I hate such politicians like him, for God's sake why all of our politicians are crazy!
http://chtchronicles.hollosite.com/voch4.2/news/article.php?2009,pangan-batuch,comment_0105_02
Pasensya na sa wordings ko, pero ganyan ako magpost ng article sa site ko. If you have questions please pm me at chitetskoy@yahoo.com.
TO ALL THE POLITICIANS AND ALL PEOPLE: TAKE NOTE OF THIS: THIS IS TODAY'S VERSE OF THE DAY. “wash and make yourselves clean. Take your evil deeds out of my sight! Stop doing wrong, learn to do right! Seek justice, encourage the oppressed. Defend the cause of the fatherless, plead the case of the widow.” (Isaiah 1:16-17)
I emailed "Take a stand" and the ff to the Federation of Golf Clubs, Phils Inc. (www.federationgolf.com) re: the incident at their Valley Golf and Country Club in Antipolo city.
"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing". Albert Einstein
Take care,
Uncle Manny
Las Vegas
Paiute Golf Advantage Club Card member
The country's culture of political impunity from the top elected post to the lowliest civil servant conditions this group of people to misguided assumptions of superiority and invincibility.
"Hindi mo ba ako kilala?" neatly capsulizes this abhorrent mentality.
It is understandable that the Masiu residents feel powerless to express any objections to negative occurrences in their daily lives as direct results of the Pangandamans' boorish behavior, faced are they are with such blatant display of goons and firepower.
Safely standing far from Lanao del Sur, I can pursue my idealism and urge the de la Pazes to stand firm and resist any monetary settlement offered out of court. Punitive damages should take care of the financial difficulties with which this case has burdened them. That is, if the the Pangandamans' "power" does not reach the justice departments of the land.
Pangandaman senior's behavior during this violent, Mafia-like altercation speaks volumes. It certainly stands to reason that his sons exhibit the same attitude that has brought them to this very public exposure of misdeeds that would ordinarily be shoved into obscurity where it not for Miss de la Paz's outspoken outrage. There is no question that senior definitely needs to vacate his Agrarian Reform position. If he doesn't voluntarily do so, the big question is:
Has Gloria Arroyo enough principles to facilitate his removal?
Watch and learn.
This is disgusting. Golf is a GENTLEMENS game. If your not a real Gentlemen you have no place in the golf course, might as well change your sport and climb the ring and have a match with Pacquiao. I pray for justice for your Brother and Dear DAD. Ping of Vancouver, Canada
Raison,
nice try...you kiss the asses of the pangandamans? hehehe
bai a labi...where are you and your pro-pangandaman asses gang??? its getting boring here...
dapat magpost pa kayo dito ng mga pro-pangandaman argument..debate..o whatever pa
bwihihihihi
found out you have Raymond Fortun for a lawyer... I hope you get the justice you deserve and the truth to eventually come out... you're very brave and I applaud you for that. It's just right about time that this power hungry, ego tripping politicians finally get a dose of their own medicine. My support and prayers are with you! stay strong!
found out you have Raymond Fortun for a lawyer... I hope you get the justice you deserve and the truth to eventually come out... you're very brave and I applaud you for that. It's just right about time that this power hungry, ego tripping politicians finally get a dose of their own medicine. My support and prayers are with you! stay strong!
My prayers to you and your family! Be strong! We should stop these kinds of shameless people! Now I heard that they are using the 8 y/o as the victim and they are blaming you and your family...They keep saying it's not their fault! Unbelieveable!!!
I'm so sorry about what happened to your father and your brother. I hope that they're all getting well from their wounds. Your prayers are with us here, and justice will prevail.
Because of people like them gives me the least motivation to go back home.
To all those who are working in that golf course, those guys are cowards!!! They should've done the right thing. Shame on them!!!
gfgfgffg
I mean our prayers are with you and your family
verum,
nice try mr frustrated investigator. you said you gather some facts at the valley golf pero siguro ang mga pinagtanungan mo ay iyong mga takot din sa mga pangd.. (whatever their names are and from whatever freakin' small town they maybe, i don't care). you can start campaigning for your side and the pangd.. (whatever) sides of the story by creating your own blog, but not in this house... comprende? by the way, how much did they pay you to infiltrate this site??? hmm... i smell a rotten fish here... very rotten, indeed.
Verum - Not sure what was it you do not want to see. It is very clear here ttp://midfield.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/valley-golf-guards-report-pangandaman-security-men-drew-guns-on-dela-pazes/that the bodyguards of the Pangandamans were holding high powered guns. And you said, valley golf did call the Police, were they trying to call the Police in Mindanao to come to Luzon to help the Pangandamans? I said this coz it seemed to me that the wife and the other son of de la paz beat the Police to Valley golf club....Valley Golf, you know you made a booboo here.
GUYS. Angkakapal talaga ng mukha ng mga Pangandaman na iyan. Sila na nga ang nang-api, sila pa ang magsasampa ng kaso! My god, this is war! Sana kidlatin ni Lord (or on their case, ni Allah) ang mga pulitikong katulad nila.
LET US SUPPORT THE DELA PAZ FAMILY! Pagpray natin na sana JUSTICE ANG MANAIG.
According to one Inquirer comment (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/metro/view/20090106-181612/Pangandaman-hurting-He-should-resign) mga hayop ang Pangandaman and Co dahil maging ang isang 14-anyos na walang kalaban laban pinatulan pa nila! Quote: "parang mga leon na nilalapa ang isang batang baka."
we hope your family gets the justice thats due to you.. mayabng lang talaga sila.. hindi naman sila sikat..
brent,
I never said the bodyguards did not have guns. What I said was they did not join the fray and did not draw their guns at anybody.
Again, if you will believe in anything that bloggers will put in their blogs and not hear the other side, then do so.
Both parties have filed their cases in court. I will simply wait for what the courts will find.
If the de la paz win, my apologies to Bambee. I myself will sign a signature campaign for the resignation of the Secretary. If the Pangandaman win, then maybe all those who judged them pre-maturely should apologize to them.
Nivrad, I am not campaigning for anybody. I am only campaigning for the truth.
To: Pangadaman et al,
I don't care if DeLa Paz was arrogant or the least likeable person at Valley Golf Country Club. That was not the issue. The legal issue here is ASSAULT. You and your thugs kicked the shit out of him! What the hell, over? You mentioned he started the fight. Does it give your thugs the right to beat them senseless after knowing the fact that the intial threat of bodily harm to your group no longer exist? This is not a case of self-defense. This is an act of LAWLESSNESS on your part! What comes around, goes around... Fucking asshole! Bambee, keep up the fight! We're here for you.
this pliticians thought that they are god..F*** them especially those who beat up your father and brother...god bless the philippines!!. take care..
A classic example of Pinoy politicias... Grabe na ito!... this should bring justice to your family... they should go behind bars! We will pray for your family's safety and I hope that the executive government will not close their eyes to seek the truth!
vernum,
there's a very big chance that the pangdmn will win this case dahil politikong pinas iyan. lahat ng kapit nila, puwersa at kung ano pang nakurakot nilang pera ay gagamitin nila para manalo. in the mean time, ang isang juan dela cruz ay walang kalaban laban, that's why people are on bambee's side. stories after stories, cases after cases and history will repeat itself again na sila ang mananalo dahil mga politiko ang kalaban... magkakasing baho sila. mga taong ibinoto to uphold justice but the only justice these rotten crooks know is their own kind of justice. si juan ay nagiging parang alipin na siya dapat ang pinaglilingkuran in the first place nitong mga "public servant" kuno. it was a very smart move of bambee to do this... i'm sure though, that's she's not expecting this all out support from so many... which is very good. hope we're sending a very strong message to these trapos and other so called vip's there sa pinas (celebrities or not) to beware... your days of arrogance, pushing and bullying so called regular folks will come back and hunt you guys... like a boomerang!
peace from sandog...
Looks like PR machinery has already invaded this blog.....
Bambee, assuming that your family is as arrogant as the spin doctors would want to portray you, and the Pangandamans are absolute saints, you guys must have really behaved so boorishly to have provoked these honorable gentlemen into transforming themselves into the pinoy version of the incredible hulk.....Amazing! Maybe we should send your dad, your brother and you to Mindanao to fight the Abu Sayaff and the MILF all at the same time.....and what about their bodyguards? The PR consultant forgot to write about them.
Saw a photo of your brother in today's newspapers...He's got good size for his age but thats not his fault. C'mon, some of history's most vile madmen were in reality little guys.
What were the Pagdanganan boys doing at valley golf? They should be in serving their constituents. Wala ba golf course in their area? Or is this another case of long distance governance?
In a tale of the tape match-up pitting your supposedly, arrogant family against the saintly, civilized secretary, his sons and their bodyguards, I'd side with you....
Unbelievable.
Just remember what goes around comes around. Their time will come and im sure justice will prevail.
The Pangandaman's are very arrogant because;
1. They are in power
2. They have bodyguards in tow
Without those, they would be the oh so typical people you see on the streets. Nothing special about these clan, they are the typical thugs based in Mindanao. Not so different from those terrorists really. These are terrorists dressed as so called "public servants" PWEH!
And Pangandaman Sr. "appealling" for bloggers to stop attacking them? Here's to you!! NGARAT! Tigas ng mukha mo ulol!
And Junior, he can only pick a fight with boys and not with men. Funny thing is, he needed the help of bodyguards. Ang galeng galeng mo parekoy! Isa kang MALUFET....malufet na unggoy!
I really pray that these perps would get the punishment they deserve.
Salvador,
For all the nice things said about the secretary (nice guy, patient, mabait), what he failed to be was a "statesman."
After the first incident, what he could have done was to remove his family from the scene and avoid further incident....y'know, kumain na lang sa labas, manood ng sine (Iskul Bukol, Baler, etc, etc) or pumunta sa Manila Zoo para matuwa yung mga baboon na bodyguards nila...all in the name of diplomacy, then file a complaint afterwards. After all, he is a government official, should have given way to a citizen who pays not only his salary, but those of his sainted children and their pets....wasted opportunity.
Had he done that, he may have been admired / commended for statemanship instead of having to plead for understanding. Pero teka, its not the secretary who should do the pleading, its his children di ba?
Papa Lee,
You just hit it dead center papi. It should be the children asking or the very least support the pleadings of the father....well lo and behold they just proven that they don't have the balls nor decency to do it. Ironically though, they had a knack at beating up a boy. Takot kasi si Junior LOL pagka wala syang bodyguard ahahay...hoy Vahkla!...lumabas ka na kasi dyan sa closet mo
Absence of "statesmanship"? It's no surprise really, considering these are thugs the De La Paz are dealing with. Its akin to "making pana the buwan". Delicadeza? It's also absent, eh sa tigas ng mukha ayaw mag leave of absence muna habang on-going ang investigation. Gusto kasi manigurado na makaka impluwensya pa sila habang nasa poder. Galeng noh?
Porkchop anyone? LOL
mga peeps! fyi ulet...
just watched flash report on TV. ala daw balak magresign si pangandaman due to that incident. bwahahaha sabi sa inyo, ang lakas ng apog! nag sorry na nga ata nung isang araw pero may counter demand din. illogical ata. wehehehe...
at sa wakas nakita ko na sa tv ung dalawang anak na pangandaman. hehehe di naman pala pang boxing mga katawan, pwede na sa wrestling!!! hehehe
peace! : )
It's no wonder that even the smallest, lowest ranking government officials project the same attitude.
They learn from the worse examples of leadership.
I wish nothing but a thousand torturous deaths for these earth scums.
Salvador,
Malungkot isipin na the secretary has to take the cudgels for the wrongdoing of his children who are not even in police custody unlike the Alabang Boys di ba?
Look, am not saying that we line them up against the wall. I believe that we are far too soft-hearted to render street justice. Which leads me to thinking that they should be thankful that they are not in some country like Somalia.
Cases have been filed by both sides in the courts. All we can do at this time are:
* watch and be entertained
* listen to the spin doctors
* wait for some VIP politico to
either feign illness or fake an
ambush to gain sympathy
* wait for this story to be made
into the next hit movie
* just keep blogging away
Cheers.
mp7,
Mas bagay sila maging image model ng bubuyog sunglasses....
Wrestling? No way, they'd get the beating of their lives. Seriously speaking, kawawa naman.
Cheers.
you might want to read this blog kasi nag comment sya sa mga sinabi mo na interview ka sa tv:
http://theluckybiatch.blogspot.com/2009/01/battle-of-rich-famous-and-powerful.html
As far as I'm concerned, wealth is not an issue here....its the lack of humility.
Am sure na gasgas na ang comment na ito, but golf is a gentleman's sport.....since when has it evolved into a contact sport?
On the other hand, it may make it more exciting to watch. Have any of you guys ever watched a boxing/chess match? Crude but entertaining.
Cheers.
Powerhungry thats what they are. So he is the Mayor. That does not give him the right to brag and hurt others. Gone were the days that when you say public servant you place others before yourself. Well the truth will prevail and they will get what they deserve. All we can do is pray that the public will see the real rotten person inside those political monkeys.
uy...kasama na din pala golf sa MMA LOL!
Hindi mag re-resign mga pangandemonyo's...matitigas mukha ng mga hunghang na yan eh. Asa pa kayo mag resign yan, mana sa amo nila yan!!LOL
Kung di man sila mahatulan sa kasalanan nila....sana magdusa sila sa malupit na KARMA!
Salvador,
Ayos.....
Teka, why not make golf a true contact sport? Isama natin sa isang tournament ang lahat ng pasaway and their bodyguards and let them beat the living tar out of each other?
If you cant convert them, beat them.
Even a traffic enforcer given just a small taste of power has the capability to abuse this power. What more a Mayor and an Agri. Sec? They suddenly changed the sport from a social gentlemanly game to an all time low in just a few minutes. I think this is due to having escorts all the time with them pushing away at traffic to move from one point to the other. They got used to this that they cannot wait a few minutes... As if they had any important things to do anyway. Its really a shame that these people get away with these just because they suck the Presidents feet like leeches. Giving an apology that's more for show than being sincere. Same as Arroyos I AM SORRY statement. God can see you and your lies Pangandang Demonyo you will get what you deserve in the afterlife. No one lives forever
Arrogant sons of b_____! I hope they burn in hell. Typical pinoy machismo and male chauvinism. everybody is trying to out do one another.
These so-called politicians are friggin' idiots and have no idea that they are morons! Have you seen them in television?
Check this out.
http://blogs.straitstimes.com/2009/1/6/filipino-bloggers-afire-re-abuse-of-power
Of course, let us thank the Pangandamans for making us the laughing stock of the world once more.
the original version of Bambee's blog is found here (scroll down a bit):
http://www.pinoygolfer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5801&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=pangandaman&start=330
I understand the use of colorful language...but why edit and delete the baseball bat portion???
just remember, no matter how bad these politicians are, they are not totally useless. they can always be used as a BAD EXAMPLE. ngak!
Dino,
To get the low down on the allegation on the use of a baseball bat, it would be best that Bambee shares her views on that.
I dont see the significance of injecting that into the discussion unless the objective is to project a "violent" image of the family....Is that it?
Assuming for the sake of argument, that your father was indeed feisty and initiated the physical conflict by using his umbrella like a Big Bertha 1 on the golf ball that is the Mayor's brain... err...head (or tummy), it still does not justify nor validate the use of force meted out to your father and brother by these pure excuses of a man.
They claim, that your father started it.
So what?
These scumbags are no better than that scoundrel in Grand Theft Auto who would mug an old lady just to steal her old and scrappy car.
No shame, these berks.
its Christmas, how could they do that!?
GOD will make a way. He saw everything. Justice will be given. And those (bad) people will surely regret of what they have done. imagine.? They are known. How could they do that.? You know, politicians think they are the most powerful persons here, and that they are excluded from any offenses or sin, that's why they're not afraid of anything. And that's why the staff of that 'place for playing golf' just can't stop them, go against them. They may be scared, i know. Yes, its unfair. But for God's sake, they should do what is right, protecting the mayor (or whoever) is not their duty, but to maintain peace and order in their place.
Too much shame for that family (the city mayor and his son). They don't deserve what they got. They're just so MEAN!
i know how much you love your family, especially your dad. i'll pray for you. and oh! take care, and keep safe. better leave that city, and find a new place to live in. you may be in danger there. may be those guys wil be back for revenge. well, i hope that doesn't happen.
God bless to you and your family. Remember, God is there.
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Ms. Bambee, take care of yourself & your family, just keep safe. They might comeback for revenge but dont ever / never ever negotiate with Pangandaman Family.
We are praying for your family & for the justice.
Ms. Bambee, take care of yourself & your family, just keep safe. They might comeback for revenge but dont ever / never ever negotiate with Pangandaman Family.
We are praying for your family & for the justice.
Someone should take care of those politicians involved...Anyway the best thing to do is spread the truth!
LIVESTRONG
It's sad how people tend to overuse power. I'm sorry that it happened to you...My prayers for your family. A lot of people are posting this over their blogs, you may not know them, but they care.
kung susuriin mong maigi yung nangyari, ganto yan, yun mga taong walang kakayahan na iuphold ang katotohanan ay gumagamit ng dahas. alam naman ng mga hayup na yun na nang overtake sila, alam nilang walang laban sila dun kung dadalhin mo yan kahit saan korte o kahit pa sa harap ng dyos, kaya ano ginawa nila...dahas. kaya hindi ako approve sa mga gyera at baril at kung ano ano pang dahas na maiisip ng tao, tinitigil nito ang PAGUUSAP at processo ng paghahanap ng KATOTOHANAN...amen
I will copy this and e-mail this to everyone I know... and repost this on my own blog...
Thanks to Ms. Lea Salonga...
Damn those f***ing bastards!
I was wondering why this has been the first time ever for me to notice Lea spell out the "F word" in her blog... now I know... revolting nga talaga...
I am so angry right now... let's campaign to have those a**holes hunted down and beaten like hell... and have their bowels pulled by hooks and dragged out to the supreme court...
I'm completely appalled...
thanks for the idea on contact sport sa green... what about this new sport called "GOLFIHAN" meaning gulpihan. ehehehheh
guinness book of records este inis book of sports, name of new game in the greens ay GOLFIHAN and in pinoy lingo is GULPIHAN. sports inventor: the Pangandamans ehehehehe
lets hope and pray that this official get they deserve yan ang hirap sa tin masyado mayabang porke may bakal at may posisyon ung iba nga tanod lang or kapitan kung umasta kapatid ng pangulo un pa kayang mga mayor na ang tatay eh direct contact kay GMA ? hay kelan magbabago mga taong ganito?
GIRL i'M GONNA REPOST THIS TO MY FACEBOOK AND MY BLOG. The world should know what kind of Government people we have here.
It pains me that there are still assholes from the Government who have the gall to ask the very persons who pay taxes so that these freakin people would have golf memberships or privileges "who they are". They have guns whose ammo taxpayers are paying, body guards at their payroll as "staff" c/o taxpayers money. And they even have the guts to tell the press that their 8 year old was "traumatized"- come on! where the guns pointed at their freakin 8 year old?!
Now that the cases are filed, time to see the truth.
When people start to open their mouth without knowing the facts, it shows ignorance. Take a look at all those comments.
While the truth really set as free, it also buries those who are ignorant about what it is.
I saw your brother in the Inquirer newspaper with the eyes pixelated (for his safety, siguro). Headline: "Golf War: Dela Pazes, Pangandamans sue each other".
Hahaha! I just can't stop laughing at the floor after hearing that those South Lanaoan beasts claimed that their 8-yr-old son has also been threatened... THREATENED LANG (kung totoo, pero gawa-gawa lang nila iyon for sure), tapos yung 14-yr-old na si BINO ay BINUGBOG DIN kasama ANG FATHER MO! Child abuse daw... cm'on, kasinungalingan pwe! SILA NGA ANG NAG-CHILD ABUSE EH. SILA NGA ANG LAMANG EH, me bodyguard, me baril, at saka Public Servant. Their victims: defenseless, bodyguardless Dela Paz family.
Did the Nasser Jr let his bodyguards beat up the defenseless 14-year-old boy instead of doing it HIMSELF? Amlufet. Takot siguro si Junior.
To Pangandamans Et Al:
Magresign na kayo!
MENE, THEKEL, PHARES
MENE - Tapos na ang maliligaya ninyong mga araw bilang public servant
THEKEL - Kayo ay hinahatulan na naming mga bloggers (kasama si Bambee) na wala kayong karapatan na maging public servant because of your EVIL and BEASTLY attitude sa golf course
PHARES - Meron nang nakalaang ibang MAS KARAPATDAPAT na maging DAR Secretary at Mayor ng Masiu City, Lanao del Sur.
Are the Pangadaman brothers and their father cowards?
Why do they need bodyguards in a golf course?
Every golfer knows that golf is a "gentleman's sport". Apparently the Pangandamans haven't been informed about this, or they have chosen to ignore this fact.
They think they are special. They have big egos. They are public servants, but they expect everyone around them to serve them.
When everything is all said and done, we can conclude that the Pangandamans need bodyguards in a golf course, and that they are really...COWARDS.
mga peeps!!! just heard the news lately....
pangandaman: "i think i'm doing my job as a secretary... why would i resign???" and he is just been assigned formally by GMA as member of the peace panel in mindanao.....
ano vah yan!!! boinks boinks!!! nyahahaha... crazy talga!
i feel for you and your family. the fact that they beat up a minor is heavy enough to get them jailed.
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